A voice in the wilderness?

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@giro It is a business after all

[#2]

plusnet - limited products 

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That depends giro, 60GB is more than enough for me including UNMETERED  usage midnight till 8am, What other ISP can say that( Truthfully)

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Quote from: Be3G

That is correct, but it doesn't have a bearing here, as Value customers were already being placed on ADSL1 over 21CN.

There must be a great many existing Value customers who were/are on 20CN, as was I until Wednesday.

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i thought we were talking about the 10 gigabyte of value

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Quote from: Be3G

Ah, but in saying that you have also just given me a counter-argument: that, because the average Value usage is 5GB, the cost of increasing the usage by a GB or two could be fairly minimal too (because those who use 5GB would continue to use roughly 5GB regardless). So I still maintain that my theory is correct… as I said last time, I have absolutely no idea how much extra usage could have been gleaned out of the money spent on offering 20Mbps to Value customers, but I think it's quite plausible that it could have been an amount that was useful (e.g. at least 1GB).

Oddly enough your argument doesn't seem to hold up.
For the users who are under the usage limit by a GB or so they wouldn't go above 10GB but for those who are just about on the limit an increase in usage of 1GB would either generate no income because they have put a cap on it or they get hit for an extra charge of £5.
Therefore - Jim puts his cynics hat on  - an increase in usage because of ADSL2+, assuming it happens, could actually generate more income for Plusnet.
As, like yourself, I have no idea how the costing is worked out the following is pure guesswork.
Users who only surf the web, receive emails, etc. plus some streaming won't cost Plusnet any more as the total instantaneous demand in Gb's would hardly change (as the effect of loading a website in 200 ms instead of 400 ms would average out at the same load per second) and the only downloading they would do is things like Microsoft Patches which are heavily rate limited anyway.

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Quote from: giro

i thought we were talking about the 10 gigabyte of value

But it's the same principle -  including UNMETERED  usage midnight till 8am, What other ISP can say that( Truthfully) (unless I've missed something in the small print?)

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Quote from: nadger

There must be a great many existing Value customers who were/are on 20CN, as was I until Wednesday.

Correct and this also applies to Extra  and Pro customers as the basic limiting factor is the roll out of 21CN across the country by BTw

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Quote from: giro

i thought we were talking about the 10 gigabyte of value

Well If you were to only go on the net Midnight till 8am then it becomes an unlimited product

[#10]

But it's the same principle -  including UNMETERED  usage midnight till 8am, What other ISP can say that( Truthfully) (unless I've missed something in the small print?)
no
i'm happy with value
but honestly the usage is so low and  i'm tired off checking it
i cant stream video  very much otherwise within an hour or two i'm out of petrol
i'm willing to drive a little slower
i agree with  the OP who started the thread

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But then Id have to say if Value is not getting you what you need change product, You get what you pay for.

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But then Id have to say if Value is not getting you what you need change product, You get what you pay for.

but plusnet has no  product offering what I already have but with a lot more usage

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So more usage then at no cost to you? In another world maybe

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So more usage then at no cost to you? In another world maybe

not at all
ASDL  MAX upto  8MB + 60 GB usage
its not uncommon tiscali have it  and  4 million of their customers used to pay for it 

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LLU