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Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 4:40 PM
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Well enjoy your holiday.
I don't think anyone has suggested you should be discussing Gerry's options in public!
Sorry, are you saying the Customer Options Team cannot phone out
I'm sorry I think this resource thing is BS. The inbounds will reduce if customers are able to request an outbound.
You could qualify a Ticket/DCT route with a comment that it may take x days before they respond and if you want a quicker response to phone in!
I repeat I am NOT suggesting this be a "direct" route for obtaining a MAC. And you need to look at the legal requirement mentioned in reply #29 as a CP as well as you role as ISP.
I don't think anyone has suggested you should be discussing Gerry's options in public!
Sorry, are you saying the Customer Options Team cannot phone out
I'm sorry I think this resource thing is BS. The inbounds will reduce if customers are able to request an outbound.
You could qualify a Ticket/DCT route with a comment that it may take x days before they respond and if you want a quicker response to phone in!
I repeat I am NOT suggesting this be a "direct" route for obtaining a MAC. And you need to look at the legal requirement mentioned in reply #29 as a CP as well as you role as ISP.
Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 4:43 PM
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#29 refers to gaining supplier, not losing.
Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 4:49 PM
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Yes correct, think about it!
Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 4:55 PM
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Ah. Will flag.
Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 5:22 PM
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Surely the point is that in this case the user pointed out that he would have difficulty discussing the possibilities with COT because of his hearing problems. Plusnet did not make any allowance for this and have not conceded that they should make any allowance for his disability.
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Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 5:55 PM
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The whole idea of this thread, is to bring PlusNet attention to the fact that there are people who have hearing difficulties, and others that have work commitments, (not able to phone during "normal" office hours ) that make it VERY difficult to inform PlusNet that they "may" be thinking of leaving....
Nowhere have I said that I am definitely leaving, and want my MAC code within the specified time. I titled the thread "I am TEMPTED by BT" ... ( that will go for any other ISP on any number of customers )
So, the argument you have put forward regarding no email contact, to find out about "possible" "sweeteners" to keep customers is
A) Governed by OFCOM " guidelines ".....
B) There will be too many applications for us to deal with at current staff levels
C) 5 day restriction on issuing a MAC
D) No plans
E). Would lose too many customers
F) We don`t do email contact for leaving.
So OFCOM guidelines suggest that email ( online/ticket - my interpretation and expectation)... does not wash, as you already have 2 out of 3 what`s wrong with a full house?
No plans - we aren`t interested in this so we won`t make any plans. ( shut up an go away )
Would lose too many customers..... the idea is to RETAIN customers, by giving them the chance to contact via email./online/ticket .. (Contradiction in terms, methinks)
There will be too many applications for us to deal with at current staff levels.... ( does "no plans" also come into this ? ) i.e. no plans to increase staff if needed. I fail to see how you can predict the number of people who will be leaving will rise, just because , suddenly, they have the option of contacting you online... Just dosen`t add up...
As for the statement that there will be an increase in the number of people wanting to leave.... this is not about people who "definitely" want to leave,. but more about people who might be thinking about leaving.... ( and which PlusNet would like to keep as customers ) which, to me, is a different kettle of fish altogether, and should be dealt with in a way that is already in use for complaints or basic customer help...... i.e. online/ticket
and to cap it all..... the general inference is that because there is no "inbound" facility to get electronic requests for information from the Retention Team.... they don`t have the facility for "outbound" communication
er.......
If you can send an email to confirm what has been said over the phone, then there is no reason why the initial contact cannot be by email, ( online/ticket) as the "confirmation email" (presumably) has to be accepted by replying to it.... and that reply must go to.........? ( oh Er... Probably.......... the retention team )
Nowhere have I said that I am definitely leaving, and want my MAC code within the specified time. I titled the thread "I am TEMPTED by BT" ... ( that will go for any other ISP on any number of customers )
So, the argument you have put forward regarding no email contact, to find out about "possible" "sweeteners" to keep customers is
A) Governed by OFCOM " guidelines ".....
B) There will be too many applications for us to deal with at current staff levels
C) 5 day restriction on issuing a MAC
D) No plans
E). Would lose too many customers
F) We don`t do email contact for leaving.
So OFCOM guidelines suggest that email ( online/ticket - my interpretation and expectation)... does not wash, as you already have 2 out of 3 what`s wrong with a full house?
No plans - we aren`t interested in this so we won`t make any plans. ( shut up an go away )
Would lose too many customers..... the idea is to RETAIN customers, by giving them the chance to contact via email./online/ticket .. (Contradiction in terms, methinks)
There will be too many applications for us to deal with at current staff levels.... ( does "no plans" also come into this ? ) i.e. no plans to increase staff if needed. I fail to see how you can predict the number of people who will be leaving will rise, just because , suddenly, they have the option of contacting you online... Just dosen`t add up...
As for the statement that there will be an increase in the number of people wanting to leave.... this is not about people who "definitely" want to leave,. but more about people who might be thinking about leaving.... ( and which PlusNet would like to keep as customers ) which, to me, is a different kettle of fish altogether, and should be dealt with in a way that is already in use for complaints or basic customer help...... i.e. online/ticket
and to cap it all..... the general inference is that because there is no "inbound" facility to get electronic requests for information from the Retention Team.... they don`t have the facility for "outbound" communication
er.......
Quote (By Jameseh )
Any offer applied by us would automatically generate an offer email for confirmation.
If you can send an email to confirm what has been said over the phone, then there is no reason why the initial contact cannot be by email, ( online/ticket) as the "confirmation email" (presumably) has to be accepted by replying to it.... and that reply must go to.........? ( oh Er... Probably.......... the retention team )
Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 7:07 PM
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I actually think that an ISP with a clear, open and transparent policy of allowing customers to discuss potentially migrating away by whatever means best suits them (including email/ticket) is less likely to lose customers, particularly if that ISP was seen to listen to customers in order to maintain their high level of customer satisfaction.
[Edit - typo, we're not really discussing loose customers ]
[Edit - typo, we're not really discussing loose customers ]
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Re: I have been tempted by BT
30-10-2012 7:27 PM
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I wish I could have summed it all up like that..........
Seems to make good business sense too...
Seems to make good business sense too...
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