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Plusnet monitoring for infringement?
02-06-2010 10:46 PM
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Sadly its completely fine for political parties to breach copyright but for us mere mortals the slightest look at an infringing picture or video on the web is soon likely to result in a demand for money.
Original article via ars technica
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02-06-2010 10:51 PM
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Quote The UK has just released a draft set of rules for its new "three strikes and you're... on a list" approach to online copyright enforcement. The quick and dirty details: ISPs must log copyright infringement warnings, rightsholders can sue when anyone picks up three warnings within a year, rightsholders must prove they use a solid process to uncover violations, ISPs must prove they can properly match IP addresses to names, and there's an appeals process. At first glance, it doesn't seem too bad.
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02-06-2010 10:58 PM
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03-06-2010 10:51 AM
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Having read most of the articles about the proposed COP, I did notice that ISPr have specifically paid mention to us. Not sure where that information came from though as I'm certainly am not aware of what the official line is (will try and find out though).
For anybody interested there's the responses of a few ISPs (including BT) here.
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Re: Plusnet monitoring for infringement?
03-06-2010 11:28 AM
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Quote from: jelv I think it's quite probable the Plusnet's total user base is in excess of 400,000 so I think being part of the larger BT group is probably irrelevant.
Well depending on how up to date the graph is then at any one time there is 290,000 users routers synced plus however many customers routers are turned off at same time which is any one's guess but i would put my money on 350,000
edit.
might help if i put the link in, site still running slow http://www.plus.net/support/network_performance/broadband_bandwidth_usage.shtml#numbers
Re: Plusnet monitoring for infringement?
03-06-2010 11:50 AM
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So what's the percentage of users who connect as and when needed who will on at the same time? Assuming 50% gives you 80,000 which would give the total user base as 330,000. I'd have thought 50% was on the high side so I don't think you are far off Asbo Dog
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03-06-2010 11:56 AM
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Just to update the thread, we do fall under the BT banner in this case, but bear in mind this is a draft code of practice, and will probably change considerably before the launch proper (there's also 2 other parts to follow).
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03-06-2010 11:58 AM
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03-06-2010 4:02 PM
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03-06-2010 9:53 PM
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04-06-2010 12:10 AM
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Also, I'd like to know how I am able to appeal against any threatening letters.
Since my identity is supposed to be protected, without at the same time revealing my identity?
Rubbish idea.
When the first letter arrives, any serious downloader would just get themselves a VPN.
"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
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04-06-2010 9:53 AM
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This applies to both the SCAM Mass mailings sent out by ACS LAW and the Digital Economy bill. Both will involve Plusnet giving up personal details with the barest of proof. The Bill in its current form still does not mean that the rights holder must provide absolute proof (like a UK criminal court) but only the probabilty of more than 50% that any wrong doing has taken place. there still is no free way to counter these claims, and in the future (though apparently not at the moment...)the traffic shaping that plus net carries out on every single subscriber (See my usage on the portal) means that this could be used as more evidence of wrongdoing.
We must stand up to the bullying of big business, The Digital Economy bill came about after Mandelson met David Geffen on holiday in corfu and promised him the bill. All this is not about protecting copyright but protecting BIG BUSINESS.
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04-06-2010 10:53 AM
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That won't work as evidence of P2P isn't evidence of illegal downloads. The Sky Player uses Kontiki P2P
Quote from: davethir and in the future (though apparently not at the moment...)the traffic shaping that plus net carries out on every single subscriber (See my usage on the portal) means that this could be used as more evidence of wrongdoing.
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04-06-2010 1:23 PM
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04-06-2010 1:35 PM
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