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Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 6:55 PM
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Any other suggestions please are most welcome if it helps to sort this out.
Can anyone tell me if Sky BB would solve the issue or indeed going mobile with a dongle?
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 7:24 PM
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The above results are all based upon actual data between those servers and your computer and I believe they would be nearer the truth than the figure you got from BT speedtester. Although that 3.5mb figure is a wee bit surprising as your profile (3000 kbps) should limit the speed to 3mb. Regardless of the slight inaccuracies the figures do seem to indicate that you download speed is in the correct ballpark for a good connection.
However, what you say about the speed problem is that it is specifically the "web browsing" that is slow. So, it would probably be a good idea to try and get an objective measurement of why that seems slow. Then someone may be able to home in on the exact problem.
To be fair to James he did start out by trying to work towards what type of internet use was showing the speed problem
There are quite a few factors that can make web browsing a bit slower than a simple speed test. Can you give an example of a particular web site and how long it is taking to load on your screen?
PS. "ping" really refers to the test that measures how long it takes for a small amount of information to go from your PC to the other server whereas the speed tests usually measure the volume of data that travels in a second, which is more useful in this case.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 7:41 PM
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Say I want to browse http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html or http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7878418.stm indeed any newspaper site it seems to take ages for the pages to load, especially after 2 pm.
I have no way of knowing exactly how long it takes because I do not know how to measure it.
Once again thanks for your time explaining this to me.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 8:22 PM
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The simplest way to measure the how long it takes is just to note how many seconds until the page is complete on your screen (hopefully minutes are not necessary).
On my PC, for those examples that you gave, the BBC page took 14 seconds for the first parts to appear and 20 seconds for the page to be completed on my screen. The Daily mail page took 27 seconds for anything to appear on my screen and 45 seconds to finish appearing. As a comparison the Plusnet home page took 3 seconds to start appearing and 6 seconds to finish.
The variation was very likely due to the complexity of the pages, for example the Daily Mail page included a lot of pictures and other bits and pieces (generally pretty messy). As each image of that page had to be loaded separately, it meant that your browser had to make many downloads from the Daily Mail website instead of one. There is usually a gap between each download while your computer and the server with the information discuss what image to download next and all those gaps add onto the overall load time.
I'm simplifying things a bit as there is more to it, but that should give a rough idea about one reason for the slowness.
If your web page load times are similar to mine above, then the slowness is more a reflection on the inefficiency of those web pages.
As a comparison here's the equivalent pages still from the Daily Mail and BBC but with the fancy stuff left out.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/textbased/channel-1/index.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/text_only.stm
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 8:38 PM
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Try this one, click on exchange checker under availability on lhe LH side http://www.samknows.com/broadband,
You Might get better with LLU, but some of the choices dont touch with a barge pole
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
09-02-2009 10:29 PM
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It's not PlusNet's or Gordon Brown's fault, we can all moan about BT not giving us a good enough service, but the evidence points at your own computer being the cause.
If your speed tests etc show your connection is working as intended, and you are in a quiet area where broadband is not contested much at your local exchange, then your web browsing is being slowed down locally by your own machine.
There could be many causes for this, from blocked fans causing overheating after being on for a while, to being infected as part of some bot net, that comes to life at certain time each day.
I'd suggest you maintain your computer, so you can understand the causes of and prevent most problems.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 9:33 AM
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Looking at your connection, you've been online solidly for 7 days, so it's not an intermittent issue.
I'm surprised that you haven't tried rebooting - this might help
Try doing it on a daily basis, does this help at all? Especially when your slowdowns occur.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 11:15 AM
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Who do I believe James, you with contention or your colleague telling me there is a fault and it should be checked by a BT engineer?The issue only happens in an afternoon, it seems to have gone stable again since yesterday but I will not know until after 2 today. I have router stats installed now since yesterday to monitor, it is showing a sync speed of 3712 kbps since last night. Do you still want me to reboot the modem daily?
Another factor is conflicting info from Plusnet, you can see that I am told it is a contention issue but this is the reply(below) from the support desk, so what do I do and who do I believe, the contention issue or the BT fault issue, I think Plusnet are confusing the issues for a lot of people.
( Looking through your account history I can see you have referred to ticket 27****** which was a fault you raised in November.
This was a different type of issue as there was lot of disconnections occurring on your line that was causing the speed problems, but this time the connections are stable but you are suffering from a low internet throughput speed.
From all the testing we have done, your sync speed shows that this is the expected speed for your line (around 3.7MB) and your IP profile also sounds right at about 3MB.
As your throughout speed is the problem (your previous responses suggest this has been as low as 69kbps) there is not much more we can then to arrange for a engineer to come out as my colleagues previous response to run some tests and see if they can locate a problem.
The only time you would be charged for a engineer visit if the cause of the slow speed was determine to being caused by your equipment, hence the reason we have asked you to run through the check-list above and to cover all the points detailed.
If you wish to book one in, please let us know but as always please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any further queries.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 1:27 PM
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Quote from: Sunny James as far as I know nothing happens at that time,
Have you knocked on the door of every single person in your town/village who uses broadband on your exchange and asked them if they start using the internet heavily around that time? If you haven't you can't make that statement.
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Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 1:38 PM
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The speed tests didn't seem to be affected by "contention".
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 1:40 PM
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Gets to the afternoon and then speeds drop to a little over 1Mbps.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 1:49 PM
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The later readings at the back of 6pm on Speedtest.net and MyBroadbandSpeed, were more in the ballpark of a reasonable connection for their profile. Wouldn't you trust those results more than a single BT speedtester result?
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 1:53 PM
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Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 2:00 PM
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I'm not sure which that you are referring to?
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
10-02-2009 2:04 PM
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Quote Hi, I am so frustrated with Plusnet speed faults and me having to do all the work to prove it is not my equipment at fault, or, stand the charges if BT decide it is my fault, how do I know if it is or not. It could actually be Plusnet reducing my speed because it only happens after 2.30 every day, but they would not admit fault of course, just like BT, no as usual it is always the customer at fault.
Now, obviously it's not us that is reducing the speed every day, but it suggests that it is more than just one day.
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