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Router connection dropouts

outcast
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Re: Router connection dropouts

I'm not disagreeing.

 


@Dan_the_Van wrote:

 

For what it is worth performing a buffer bloat test always gives me a result of D on a good day I might get a C.


 

Yes, and knowing that means that if you see a "D" you can assume that it's normal, whereas an "F" is a red flag.

Clearly there are thousands of people using a Hub2 with a "D" score who are perfectly happy, so no need to comment.

My point about the waveform test, is that it captures a snapshot of many relevant metrics in one test, as a diagnostic starting point.

 

 


@Dan_the_Van wrote:

 

Over diagnosis of an issue in the first instance should be avoided as it can add a layer of complication that's not required.


 

Having the most complete set of metrics in a single test, doesn't mean that you have to react to it, or over diagnose anything.

The waveform test simply gives the maximum amount to data in one simple test, without the user avoiding telling you something.  The test itself is no more difficult to run than any others, and provides a convenient and simple URL to reply with - rather than having the user figure out how to do screenshots, upload the image, and post a picture in their reply, etc.

 

The issue I most often see is something like, someone is complaining that their YouTube is buffering, so you ask them to screenshot a speed test (of both upload and download speeds),  but because they think that they have a download speed issue, they repeatedly don't provide the upload result (because they don't think or accept that it's relevant).  Whereas getting them to provide the waveform result URL, you can see the upload speed and latency - so are able to point out that the speed test you asked for was done while another user of the home network was uploading something, or a mobile was doing a cloud backup etc, and invalidating the entire test.

 

The problem with doing one test at a time approach, is that network conditions change between tests, and you never know when the person you are trying to help is now doing the next thing you've asked for, or if they've disappeared for the day (or week) - so you are waiting around for a reply that sometimes never comes.  Again, doing the test that provides the most metrics, means that you and I don't waste our time waiting for the next response.

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Re: Router connection dropouts

As this thread has got somewhat sidetracked and off topic, I'm reposting the last relevant post for @82sg  to respond to -

 


@jab1 wrote:

@82sg Thanks for the event log. From that, I think it is safe to say you are having too many DSL drops for it to be claimed you are 'running normally'. Personally, I would go back to PN and ask them to carry out some more checks. I appreciate you have said previously that you have done reboots/checked cabling etc, which obviously will give rise to some of the drops, but very recent behaviour still suggests there is something not quite right.

Before you do go back to PN, though, can you post your 'Technical Log - Information' screen, so we can see your connection status -  obscure your user name in it.


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Re: Router connection dropouts

Hi,

 

Sorry for the late reply, it’s been a hectic day. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions too. Here is a screenshot of the technical log. Timing is great as the router just reconnected again.

 

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Re: Router connection dropouts

@82sg Looking at that Technical log, I am convinced there is a fault somewhere, despite PN's denials. Your line attenuation suggests you should be getting around 60/65Mb/s connection speed, your SNR margins are not indicating any issues, and yet you are restricted to about half what I would expect you to be getting.

I appreciate it is a pain, but can you give us a another export of your error log, please?

John
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Re: Router connection dropouts

Hi John,

Not a problem, the latest extract is attached and thanks again for your help.  I’ve kicked off the automated help check again so will see what it comes back with this time.

Thanks,

Gary.

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Re: Router connection dropouts

I'm going to guess it will come back with 'no fault found' - again, but there is one. Wait and see what it says, and we can take it from there.

John
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Re: Router connection dropouts

It actually came back this time with a speed fault and an engineer is due out on Thursday. I’ll post back here with their findings once they’ve been out and checked everything. 

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Re: Router connection dropouts

Miracles do happen. 🤣

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