Router orange in morning sometimes with no connection

[#1]

My connection is fine when it's working but sometimes it will randomly have no internet and the router will be solid orange.

I've heard this can be due to an authentication issue but I've tried re-entering my password multiple times and the issue still seems to persist.

[#2]

@alexs2 Which router? this could indicate an issue with the BTw/OR network - or a number of other things. We need a little more information.

[#3]

Hi,

It's a Plusnet Hub 2

[#4]

OK. How long have you been connected, and has this always happened since connection?

[#5]

I've had the plusnet service for about two weeks and this is the second time it's happened

I'm not 100% sure but it sounds somewhat similar to this: https://community.plus.net/t5/Fibre-Broadband/Plusnet-hub-keeps-losing-my-password-overnight/td-p/16...

Although I have tried reentering the password and it's not connecting at the moment

[#6]

That link is quite old - I haven't read it, but it is dangerous to assume you could be having the same issue. When you have this problem, is the username reverting to 'setup@plusdsl.net'?

[#7]

You're right that it is wrong to assume it's the same issue.

No the username doesn't change.

Looking in the logs, it seems like the router is repeatedly logging the following:

"PPP: Sending PADI"

Also after restarting the router the date and time is wrong in the logs.

[#8]

OK - I was going to suggest you posted the event log - can you do that please?

So the username is 'yourusername@plusdsl.net' - yes?

The date/time will be wrong until the Hub polls the time server.

[#9]

The username seems correct - perhaps I was wrong in assuming it was an authentication issue.

Logs:

(This then goes on for ages)

09:09:26, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:09:21, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:09:16, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:09:11, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:09:06, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:09:01, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:08:56, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:08:51, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:08:46, 08 Feb. PPP: Sending PADI
09:08:41, 08 Feb. WAN Sensing Auto sensing Complete, interface selected
09:08:41, 08 Feb. SIP WAN DOWN
09:08:41, 08 Feb. PPP: Starting PPP daemon
09:08:40, 08 Feb. WAN Sensing Auto sensing Running
09:08:40, 08 Feb. WAN connection WAN2_INTERNET_PTM disconnected.[ERROR_NO_CARRIER]
09:08:39, 08 Feb. PPP: Stopped PPP daemon(0,1,5)
09:08:36, 08 Feb. PPP LCP Send Termination Request (User request)
09:08:33, 08 Feb. PPP LCP Send Termination Request (Peer not responding)
09:08:33, 08 Feb. PPP: IPCP down
09:08:33, 08 Feb. PPP: LCP down

Then, after rebooting:

00:00:57, 01 Oct. PPP: Sending PADI
00:00:52, 01 Oct. PPP: Sending PADI
00:00:47, 01 Oct. PPP: Sending PADI
00:00:44, 01 Oct. DSL Link Up: Down Rate=79999kbps, Up Rate=19999kbps; SNR Margin Down=7.4dB, Up=15.3dB
00:00:42, 01 Oct. PPP: Sending PADI
00:00:37, 01 Oct. PPP: Starting PPP daemon
00:00:36, 01 Oct. DHCP device Connected: 192.168.1.148, f0:72:ea:e8:d1:0f, Google-Nest-Mini
00:00:36, 01 Oct. WAN Auto-sensing detected port DSL WAN
00:00:36, 01 Oct. DHCP lease issued 192.168.1.148 to f0:72:ea:e8:d1:0f Google-Nest-Mini, lease duration is 86400 seconds
00:00:36, 01 Oct. 2.4G Client associate from f0:72:ea:e8:d1:0f (IP=192.168.1.148) RSSI=-53, Rate=65Mbps, host Google-Nest-Mini
00:00:35, 01 Oct. LAN [ADD] ARP 192.168.1.148 with f0:72:ea:e8:d1:0f from br0(wl1)
00:00:35, 01 Oct. ARP [add] br0(wl1) 192.168.1.148 f0:72:ea:e8:d1:0f
00:00:35, 01 Oct. Receive a DHCP request
00:00:35, 01 Oct. Lan IPv6 Neighbour Discovery events: NEIGHBOR_SOLICIT
00:00:25, 01 Oct. 2.4G WiFi auto selected channel 1 Bandwidth:20M(Reason:boot)
00:00:23, 01 Oct. 2.4G WiFi scan(Reason:boot)
00:00:19, 01 Oct. 2.4G WiFi auto selected channel 1 Bandwidth:20M(Reason:boot)
00:00:16, 01 Oct. Booting firmware v0.08.00.08297-PN (Mon Aug 29 11:12:39 2022)
00:00:14, 01 Oct. Upgrade and system start from GUI
00:00:13, 01 Oct. System up
00:00:09, 01 Oct. 2.4G WiFi scan(Reason:boot)
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 5G WPS feature enabled
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 2.4G WPS feature enabled
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 2.4G WPA2 mode selected
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 2.4G WiFi UP
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 5G WPS feature enabled
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 2.4G WPS feature enabled
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 5G WPA2 mode selected
00:00:05, 01 Oct. 5G WiFi UP
23:59:59, 30 Sep. WAN Auto-sensing last connection port: DSL WAN
09:54:34, 08 Feb. System restart, reason: GUIReboot

UPDATE: After a couple of hours it seems to have sorted itself again. Will phone and log an error if it happens again. Thanks

[#10]

OK. To save a long discussion, based on the log extract above, please follow the below, this sounds like an OR network problem.

First thing to check: Is your phoneline clear? Dial 17070 (preferably from a corded phone), select option 2. Once your phone number is confirmed, there should be silence on the line except for the regular 'Quiet Line Test' message - any other noise, report a PHONE problem via: https://www.plus.net/help/report-a-problem/phone/

If the phone test passes, report a broadband problem via: https://www.plus.net/help/report-a-problem/broadband/

Let us know the result - if the tests come back as clear but you still have a problem, we need to investigate further.

[#11]

Thanks for the info, I don't have a landline phone with me at the moment but I will try this in the future

[#12 · Accepted solution]

A cheap corded handset is an invaluable tool for ADSL/VDSL connection issue checking, but without that, just use the 'report a broadband' problem link above.

[#13]

@alexs2  you havent got something plugged into the 4th ethernet port of the router ( marked with a red WAN sticker ) have you?

That port cant be used when you have a DSL (FTTC) connection.