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Alternative email services for free
29-06-2024 7:16 PM
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So, my current setup for email is that I own my own domain name, let me pretend it is "plb.uk".This is hosted at Names.co.uk.
At NamesCo, I have email-forwarding set up: it currently sends my "@plb.uk" email on to my PlusNet email... let's pretend that is "paul@plb.plus.com".
Thus I can send email to "anyone@plb.uk" and it all comes to my "paul@plb.plus.com" account. Of course, I also neeed to SEND emails from my own domain (rather than my plusnet email address): my email software is set up such that, whilst I send the email via the PlusNet servers, I can have the "from" address set to be my "@plb.uk" address, and Plusnet are ok with that.
(in reality, I have several plusnet emails setup, as well as multiple email addressses on my domain, the latter forwarding to the former)
There are several issues related to using a PlusNet email account, the biggie being that, if I leave PlusNet, then I'm gonna lose the email. (Other issues can include a distinct lack of storage space, and a fairly low "attachment size allowed".) Historically, fixing this would have been fairly simple: I would have just set up email at the new ISP, and forwarded my "anyone@plb.uk" email to there..... Except that many ISPs don't do email any more.
So, I looked around: yes, I know I can always use Microsoft, Gmail, Yahoo etc.... but I'll be honest, I'll sell my kids before I use them for any serious emails! Looking around, I found GMX, they are a german outfit, their setup is based in Germany (who have fairly tight privacy laws), but there are many other free providers out there you could use.
And that would be fine, if I was happy to just use "plb@gmx.co.uk", but I don't, I want to be able to use my OWN domain name. So where is the problem? Well, whilst GMX will happily accept the incoming forwarded email, it will NOT (and I understand why) let you send emails "from:" anywhere other than your "plb@gmx.co.uk" email address! This isn't just GMX, you find this for many similar email providers. Yes, you can probably PAY for the privilege, and usually quite highly.
So what IS the solution. Thge answer is to split the task into two: use GMX for your incoming emails and online storage of those emails, but use ANOTHER provider to SEND your emails: people like MailJet, and SMTP2GO. These people are set up for businesses to send large numbers of emails to lots of customers, but they have FREE accounts that we can use!Mailjet give me 200 free outgoing emails per day, 7 meg/file, 10 meg/message. That's enough for me.
However, because you can easily MIS-use their services to send junkmail etc, there are a few hoops you have to jump through to use them... put simply, they have to be able to trust you, or specifically, need you to prove that you actually OWN that "plb.uk" domain name. They may need you to add details to your DNS (I can do that, over at NamesCo!). They will make you log in when sending your emails with stupidly long (32 character!), hexadecimal account names and passwords. But once you get your head around that, it is RELATIVELY easy to set up your email software on your PC or phone...
1) create your GMX account, you will need to go to the "settings" page, and emable POP3/IMAP (otherwise you can only use their webmail - not bad, but limited to sending emails from your "gmx.com" address.) This is where you'll forward your emails to, from Namesco
2) Create your MailJet account, set up your DNS as required (lots of words to read!)
3) Set up your email-forwarding to send your emails to your GMX email account
4) On your email program, your POP (or IMAP) setup, which covers your INcoming emails, will point to your GMX account, whilst your SMTP setup, which covers sending OUTgoing emails, will point to your MailJet account. To be honest, many email programs try to be "too helpful", hiding the details away from you. Things like K9mail (android) and Thunderbird (Windows etc) are much easier to configure!
If you use Outlook on Windows, then having used Outlook itself to (incorrectly!) set up the email account, then go to Control Panel / Mail (Microsoft Outlook) / email accounts then double-click the relevant email account. You can also create the new account in here too! This lets you set up the details for the POP3/IMAP and SMTP servers separately, as you need to!
5) Send yourself an email to your GMX email account (plb@gmx.co.uk), using the GMX web mail client to read it. That one is easy. Next try sending an email your your OWN email address (anyone@plb.uk) and check that it gets forwarded ok.
6) Using your email program, do a "send and receive emails": those emails should now appear in your email program! Looking good.
7) Try sending an email from your email program: it will be sent via Mailjet, and should be received quite quickly. Send one to yourself too, that's a great "round trip test".
If you are happy to just walk away from a plusnet email, and replace it with a GMX one, then you can ignore all of the above: all you need to do is set up a new GMX account, and use it, just like you can with Google, Yahoo etc. This is for those of us who have our OWN domain names, and want to use a different email service, rather than PluNet.
Ok, many things simplified, but thought it might help to document the steps needed. If you'd like more detail, then let's chat about it!
Paul
Re: Alternative email services for free
30-06-2024 6:49 AM
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@paul_blitz why not just host your domian 'properly' ? OK its not free but for similar facilities to PN email, Mythic Beasts https://www.mythic-beasts.com/hosting will cost you only £20/yr (if paid annually). This solves all the problems of forwarding, sending and being tied to an ISP mail service.
ISTR that names.co.uk are cheap for initial domain registration but expensive when coming to renew, so you MIGHT be able to save a little by moving the domain registration when time to renew. I just moved all the office domains away from names.
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Re: Alternative email services for free
30-06-2024 5:13 PM
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Fair comment.
The problem I see is that I started off with broadband that gave me a phone. Gave me email. Gave me some web / storage space. One by one, those have all been taken away, but the cost remains essentially the same, for a lesser service..
To get an "easy to setup" phone service (=preconfigured by the same provider) you have to pay a premium price. And for an email service that is "suitable for today" you pay another premium.
For many people, they are not technical, so they HAVE to pay.
For some, who are slightly technical, they can set up a free service with a little help
(In fact, Namesco have an email service available, and included for free with my domain, but it is just simple webmail. For anything more (eg to let you send emails with SMTP) you pay more. Thanks for the link for Mythical Beasts, looks like a possibly cost-effective solution.)
So, my original post was there to help anyone who would like to set up some FREE email!
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 8:34 AM
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I skimmed over your initial post and saw no reference to adding spf/dkim records.. This is an essential requirement these days if you want to be sure of email delivery when using this sort of arrangement.
I still have a domain that uses the free Names Litemail service. By using POP3 I can live happitly with the 100MB storage limit. I send through Plusnet's free SMTP server, but to ensure email delivery I have had to add the Plusnet spf record to my Litemail control panel settings.
It currently works and I have not yet got around to adding it to my 'proper' Mythic service, used by a second domain. I really must get on and remove this from my 'To Do' list.
My other domain is also registered with Names. As this registration has been paid for several years upfront I have left this with them and changed the Nameserver to transfer hosting to Mythic, They will host multiple domains in the single account, subject to not exceeding the storage and bandwidth limit..
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Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 9:13 AM
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I haven't found Namesco renewals too expensive, particularly for longer periods - I've had a number of domains registered with them for years, and although I could possibly save a few pounds (depending on the TLD) it has never been enough to justify the effort for me.
Another option for e-mail is to host your own server. It needs a static IP, a modest computer, and a bit of effort to set up. You then have as many domains & addresses as you want, unlimited storage, and configurable spam filtering. It's not for everyone, but for anyone a bit techy it is straightforward enough. I've hosted my own mail server for ~25 years without problems.
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 12:53 PM
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I note the need for a modest computer, which I assume is powered 24/7? My logic goes like this, the current cost of base load electricity works out at just shy of £2 per W per year. Consequently if the mail server computer power consumption exceeds 10W then over a year it's cheaper to offload the task. More than 10W and it's more expensive.
If you only switch on your mail server periodically you can scale the cost of running pro rata.
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Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 1:47 PM - edited 01-07-2024 1:53 PM
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If you only switch on your mail server periodically you can scale the cost of running pro rata
but then you need some form of MX standby to avoid losing email.
I've been playing with a Lenovo M720q Tiny PC, with a 256Gb NVME drive it uses about 13W. However, using Proxmox Virtual Environment I can run (for example) a mailserver, PiHole and HomeAssistant on the same h/w which MIGHT make it cost effective...
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Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 1:55 PM
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So as well as a computer you need to add an UPS if emails are not to be lost?
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Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 2:23 PM
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..." and saw no reference to adding spf/dkim records"
True. To add those, you need to add 2 more DNS records. Certainly Mailjet highlight the need clearly, with some great step-by-steps of what you actually need to do.
Using Plusnet's included SMTP is a great solution, but you lose the ability if you want to move away from Plusnet.
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 2:59 PM
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Free : You have little control over your emails and their contents or the future of the service.............
DIY : Wonderful learnnig experience but can be very time consuming but if you don't mind losing the odd email....
For both consider what worked well yesterday may not work well tomorrow.
I enjoy a challenge but for emails I'm quite happy putting my hand in my pocket...............
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 3:24 PM
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@MisterW wrote:
but then you need some form of MX standby to avoid losing email.
Technically you could get away without - SMTP is designed to be resilient, and to allow for interruptions in connections, so most relays will hold e-mails for at least 48 hours waiting for a MX server to become available. I wouldn't recommend it though.
The same applies with UPS - as long as you can live without sending or receiving e-mails during a power cut.
For me the electricity cost (and UPS etc) is worth it as I have a number of domains, dozens of e-mail addresses, and web sites all hosted on my server. It also acts a backup filestore for other devices, media server, and incoming VPN. I may not be a typical case.
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 3:50 PM
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@corringham wrote:
I have a number of domains, dozens of e-mail addresses, and web sites all hosted on my server. It also acts a backup filestore for other devices, media server, and incoming VPN. I may not be a typical case.
Just the one server ?
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 5:12 PM
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@Champnet wrote:
Just the one server ?
I do currently only have one internet facing server running 24/7. It was last rebooted a few months ago, as most updates don't need a reboot. The hardware is 10+years old. Apart from power cuts that take the broadband (ADSL, 4G and now FTTP) down, I've only had about 4 hours downtime in the last decade.
I do have spare machines, and (if I'm at home at the time) could swap to a replacement in 30 minutes. Files are backed up to another machine in another building automatically.
And at worst, loss of e-mail etc isn't life or death for me.
I am planning a new server this year, and the old one will become a standby then.
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 5:29 PM
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Looks fun, reminds me of my younger days when anything seemed possible….
Re: Alternative email services for free
01-07-2024 10:39 PM
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Blundering off topic alert! (And some convergent 'evolution' in the world of technology?)
E-mail - original design concept may well have been "store and forward". The days of "not everything is on 24x7".
Basic text messages on mobiles. Again, store-and-forward.
Would a text message disappear into the virtual bit bucket if my mobile was powered off for more than a couple of days?
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