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Tandy
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SMTP problems??

Ive a metronet email account which has been problematic for years (tempremental with sending emails).  Im using Samsung email.

For the last few months Ive been using:

SMTP:    smtp.metronet.co.uk
Security type None    (available options are None, SSL, SSL (Accept all certs), TLS, TLS (Accept all certs)
Port 25
Requires Authentication YES
User names is      myemail@metronet.co.uk

password       mypassword

I understand that there is a known issue with port 587

Stopped being able to send last night and have tried every combination but cant get anything to work.  Id rather not change email client but I did try Gmail which said the CERTIFICATES were invalid.

Any suggestions please?? 

 

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outcast
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Re: SMTP problems??

Have you tried -

 

Security type : SSL/TLS

Port : 465

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Tandy
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Re: SMTP problems??

Hi my options are:

SSL
SSL (ACCEPT ALL CERTS)
TLS
TLS(ACCEPT ALL CERTS)

Using 465:
SSL and TLS are rejected as the CERTS are not trusted.
SSL (ACCEPT ALL CERTS) is unable to send (i don't get a reason)
TLS (ACCEPT ALL CERTS) just times out.

Very frustrating
Townman
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Re: SMTP problems??

The correct configuration is port 587 with STARTTLS

There has been a network routing issue today, which is reported to be resolved.

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glasg0wl0dey
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Re: SMTP problems??

Thanks but your suggested setting changes have not worked for me.

I can receive inbound mail but cannot send. The Outlook dialogue indicates that authentication is required - 530.7.1

These are the outgoing server settings in MS Outlook that have worked successfully for many years.

smtp.metronet.co.uk

Port 25

Encryption method - none

SPA check box = unticked

Outgoing server authentication = unticked

 

Townman
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Re: SMTP problems??

Just because they worked does not mean that they were compliant with best practice.

Port 25 is not the message submission interface it is the relay interface. Port 587 is the correct port.

The SMTP connection should be authenticated - use the same credentials as the inbound port. Not authenticated connections are an in network lazy configuration which ought never to be relied upon and will cause difficulties if connecting over a different network.

The connection should be encrypted (but does not have to be) - use STARTTLS

Those configuration details are correct: if it does not work, then there is an issue with the authentication credentials.

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Tandy
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Re: SMTP problems??

There has been an ongoing issue with port 587 for metronet mail since mid last year which I rasied a ticket. I was told that whilst it is a known issue there was no plans in place to resolve!!

I was told to use port 25.

I can log in with webmail using my credentials, I can receive mail with the same credentials.

 The SMTP issue started 2 days ago and affects both Samsung mail (android), Thunderbird (PC) for 2 different metronet accounts and as above other people.

THAT would suggest its a bigger issue and one that rests with PN.

Problem is, as usual they aren't interested in providing help or assistance!

glasg0wl0dey
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Re: SMTP problems??

Thanks for replying however in my defence, ports 110 and 25 were the settings originally provided by Plusnet/ Metronet.

I have tried the settings you suggest but these do not work in any combination. The best I now get is a recurring password pop up and apparent failure of the password.

I am quite willing to comply with best practice however this needs initiation/ cooperation from Plusnet who appear to offer very little support for legacy email addresses once they have acquired the business from their original service provider.

glasg0wl0dey
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Re: SMTP problems??

Agreed, this problem seems to have started within the past couple of days. Sadly, PN seem to have assigned a very low priority to the problem possibly because there are fewer users.

GrahamS
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Re: SMTP problems??

I am having the same issues since plusnet made a change on 17 March to require the user name to be of the format username@metronet.co.uk.

 

Changing my username in the server settings to comply with this results in me being able to receive e-mail on the  pop3 metronet server but the smtp server will not authenticate.

 

I have tryied ports 25, 587 without authentication, with authentication, STARTLS, NONE but nothing seems to work.

 

Its really frustrating and doubly so as there was no notification from plus net ahead of the username change.

 

At least for now webmail is working....

glasg0wl0dey
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Re: SMTP problems??

Totally agree GrahamS - is anyone from Plusnet actually looking into this issue and fixing the cause of the issue that they have unintentionally caused? Come on PN - give the paying public an update!!

Rickmia18
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Re: SMTP problems??

I too am experiencing all the issues with SMTP that others are. I have used the same settings for many years and never had a problem. Its only in the last couple of days that I have found that I cannot send emails – Only receive them.

 

I can log into webmail without issue using my username without the @metronet.co.uk and password.

glasg0wl0dey
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Re: SMTP problems??

Now getting this certificate installation popup which when installed does not resolve the issue.

metronet cert popup.JPGmetronetcert details#1.JPG

Tandy
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Re: SMTP problems??

I thought it might be an issue with my mail program (Samsung Mail) which does not have a STARTTLS option.

I tried to set up the gmail app and it had major warning about adding the account due to Certificate Issues which should not be trusted!!

Townman
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Re: SMTP problems??

Check the certificate details, specifically the server names.

Plusnet servers tend to be a bit bipolar to deal with presumptive clients. Consider first example Plusnet’s core SMTP server…

Real name: relay.plus.net
Client presumed name: smtp.plus.net

Without encryption either will work fine, but with encryption the latter will give rise to a certificate error because the presumed name is technically wrong.

The server detail in the certificate identities the correct server name.

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