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FTTP where access over premises is required?

Archer
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

pvmb,

The reasoning here is:

I am in a fairly small cabinet area which was not provided with FTTC when adjacent areas were rolled out years ago. I assume this is because the small area makes it difficult for OR to justify the investment.

Meanwhile VM has proved very popular in the absence of FTTC, for those who want better than ADSL.(I have looked to see who has a VM feed).

When we look at FTTP roll out, I assume similar investment criteria would apply, but now even fewer households would be available to takeup the new service as many already have service from VM.

Hence I would not be surprised if OR decided to invest their money elsewhere and left my little patch till the tail end of copper recovery, which I would expect to be around 2030.

I would love to be wrong.

Archer

 

bmc
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

@Archer 

You could always have a look at www.openreach.com to see if there are any current plans. The fact that you only have ADSL could work in your favour.

 

Brian

G6JPG-0
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

This is an interesting document with many answers: https://www.openreach.com/help-and-support/obtaining-wayleaves. Note that they can use the courts is necessary!

Yes, interesting. Thanks for the link!

I wonder, if OR do have to go to court (which they say they try to avoid), does the person who's being awkward have to be told who (what address) wanted the provision? (Not that I do, I'm quite happy with my [what I assume is] FTTC. I live alone and don't download many movies or do other things that need high bandwidth.)

G6JPG-0
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

@G6JPG-0 wrote:

I've no idea whether my existing connection is via a duct or directly buried; it works well! Any idea what proportion are buried (presumably that means the raw cable is just buried in the ground) and what are ducted?

A neighbour recently asked that question of BT/Openreach, I'm not sure which. The answer was that new installations after the early 70s should be ducted, so it is allegedly installation date related. I have no idea when overhead connections were replaced with underground cables, presumably when new estates were being built in greenfield areas, home owners could afford and wanted a telephone and there were no pre-existing pre-war telegraph poles, my guess, in the late 50s/60s. Our house, which was completed about 1972 has a directly buried telephone cable which runs under the floor to a socket in the centre of the property.

Thanks. I believe this home was sited about 1999 or 2000, so it should thus be ducted, unless the site owner "did things on the cheap". Where there is (what would originally have only been) a telephone connection, would OR (or BT, or the GPO) have always insisted on being involved with the provision including the last few yards, or could builders (and especially site owners, such as park home/caravan/camping) insist on doing that themselves (and possibly thus just burying)?

[At my previous home - also a park home site - the telephone cable, which I'm pretty sure was just buried, over the years worked its way to the surface, until it encountered a lawnmower; but I think that was a much older site. (CM2 8LF)]

Anunnaki
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?


@G6JPG-0 wrote:

 

[At my previous home - also a park home site ... ... ...  that was a much older site. (CM2 8LF)]


 

@G6JPG-0 

Did you move from there because of the neighbours constantly knocking on your door ?

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G6JPG-0
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

No, that's been built since I left!

Anunnaki
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I drive past there several times a year, and the stretch of road between the A12 junction up to the petrol station always gives me an uneasy feeling of ominous foreboding, as if something terrible has happened there, then passing where the scrap metal yard used to be, the sinister atmosphere vanishes.

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Baldrick1
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

I don't know how park homes fit within the Building Regs but it looks like ducting has been a requirement since at least 2016, see attachment.

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G6JPG-0
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Re: FTTP where access over premises is required?

I don't know how park homes fit within the Building Regs but it looks like ducting has been a requirement since at least 2016, see attachment.

Thanks; doesn't help me as this home was sited 1999 or 2000, and as you say the park home query, but certainly a useful link; downloaded.