Connections Dropping

[#1]

@silversurfer10 

The DP's come in various sizes. The one for my property is 8 port / node. The one visible in your picture has 4 ports / nodes. I believe you get 12 port / node DP's. I would assume OR has put enough capacity on the pole to cover all lines.

Hope the new master socket helps.

Brian

[#2]

It has , broadband is now stable and no drop  outs so far in the last 24 hours.

[#3]

Last week a team from OpenReach were stringing fibre cables to the posts along our lane as the first part of supplying FTTP to few properties here.

I had a discussion with one of them to find out what was happening. I was told that in about a months time they would replace the connection to each house with a dual fibre optic and copper cable, with the option of going FTTP then or retaining the copper connection. As my FTTC connection currently gives me speeds of 7.5-8.5 mbps down and 0.4-0.5 mbps FTTP would be the way forward. 

A simple upgrade I thought but NO!

PlusNet do not provide FTTP at the moment so if I want an improved service I will have to go elsewhere. How can I do it as all the other ISPs only supply what is available now, not what will be available in a few weeks time.

[#4]

When the work is done, the broadband speeds should be a lot faster than than 7mps. It should be about 30 to 50 mps. 

Perhaps BMC  may enlighten us. . You can upgrade to Fibre  Unlimited and you will get better speeds than 7mbs.

If you go onto Openreach website they can tell who supply Ultra Fast Broadband. (About £40 a month)

Do not worry, your speeds will increase.

[#5]

@FlossyThePig 

I would be surprised if OR replaced the house cables during the network install as it would require access to each property. What usually happens is the house wire gets replaced as and when FTTP is ordered.

As you've discovered you can't order FTTP until it is live - keep an eye on the following link. You need to see WBC FTTP in the left hand column and Available over to the right.

https://www.broadbandchecker.btwholesale.com/#/ADSL

FTTP speed is not limited by distance so you'll get near to whatever package you may order.

As noted, PlusNet don't currently have a FTTP product but it is coming in the second half of the year (supposedly). If you can't wait that long you can move to BT or EE FTTP free of any PlusNet early termination fees. You just need to let them know first.

Brian

[#6]

bmc, I  have just found this

How will the digital upgrade affect me?

For most people upgrading to digital services should be straightforward.  Moving to a digital phone line means that your phone service will be delivered over the internet, similar to Zoom or Skype. 

Where an Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband service is available you’ll be upgraded from an analogue phone line to a digital one when you place an order and request a phone service or sign up to a new contract, whether you’re changing provider, upgrading or re-grading.

By 31 December 2025 service providers will need to migrate most analogue telephone lines to digital phone lines. That's 14 million lines and channels across the UK. Some service  providers may choose to upgrade their customers sooner, so you might see this reflected in their product offerings. We recommend that you check what’s available on their website. 

Does this mean if we wait long enough, Plusnet will have to do this for free, or will they put the prices up to pay for it.?

[#7]

bmc, I  have just found this

How will the digital upgrade affect me?

For most people upgrading to digital services should be straightforward.  Moving to a digital phone line means that your phone service will be delivered over the internet, similar to Zoom or Skype. 

Where an Ultrafast Full Fibre broadband service is available you’ll be upgraded from an analogue phone line to a digital one when you place an order and request a phone service or sign up to a new contract, whether you’re changing provider, upgrading or re-grading.

By 31 December 2025 service providers will need to migrate most analogue telephone lines to digital phone lines. That's 14 million lines and channels across the UK. Some service  providers may choose to upgrade their customers sooner, so you might see this reflected in their product offerings. We recommend that you check what’s available on their website. 

Does this mean if we wait long enough, Plusnet will have to do this for free, or will they put prices up

[#8]

@silversurfer10 

I am currently on Unlimited Fibre but the distance to the cabinet is over 1.25 miles which is why I get the poor speeds I do. They have gone down slightly since I went from ADSL to FTTC but they are still twice as fast as my old ADSL connection.

I have been working in the computer business for more than forty years and have seen great changes in the world of IT (nee DP). I have soldered RS232 plugs to enable me to get serial data streams for later analysis of the data captured. The speeds may be faster but the underlying principles are the same.

[#9]

I have been looking on ine and I have seen something disturbing.

By 2023 OR when 75% of a Telephone Exchange area has had fibre cable rolled out for FTTP, Open reach will stop selling copper cable products, ie, analogue telephones and some broadband plans will be terminated.

Seems like a backdoor way for people to HAVE to buy Ultra Fast Fibre, even if we do not want to.

[#10]

@silversurfer10 

Just because the infrastructure is changed so that your telephone connection is sent directly from your home in digital form over fibre does not mean that you have to pay for high speed FTTP in order to have a landline phone service. 

[#11]

@silversurfer10  To add to what @Baldrick1  has said although Openreach will stop supplying new installations of copper line based products the existing copper will still be operational and not everyone will have FTTP available so the digital phone service could also be provided over FTTC or ADSL broadband connections.  Have a look at this Openreach SOTAP link

SOTAP 

[#12]

Hi FlossyTheyPig,

I have just been canvassed Saturday by YouFibre, offering a free 3 month trial with 4 plans, and they are all FTTP. Might be worth looking at.

[#13]

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@silversurfer10 wrote:

 Openreach will no longer use copper cable, just fibre cable.

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It is the analogue PSTN which is being phased out, not copper entirely.  Voice will in many places continue to be delivered over copper, but not as an analogue signal but as digital content in the broadband service, just as FTTC delivers a digital data service over the existing copper.

The key elimination of copper will be the e-side trunk circuits between the exchange and the local green cabinets.