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Changing to Broadband only and no phone

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QuantumGuy
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

I will also post back when it happens 😀

bgiles
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

Correction to my previous post and attachment, it looks like the NB Test Head (Evo TAM) remains connected to the copper pair, but I haven't a clue what that is.

Does anybody know what a 'NB Test Head' is?

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Gandalf
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

As far as I'm aware, no engineering work is involved when a service is regraded from FTTC to SoGEA. The change can happen at any point up to midnight on the day the order's due to complete.

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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

@bgiles 

Thanks for the attachment

TAM - Test Access Matrix. A device to test problems in a DSL and POTS system. It can do a look in and a look out test to determine problems in the system.

Does anybody know what a 'NB Test Head' is?

I suspect this is used to check the copper connection from the FTTC cab to the End User for breaks and hopefully high resistant joints. 

QuantumGuy
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

4pm and still got a dial tone!

(But I note above it can happen anytime up until midnight)

bgiles
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

@QuantumGuy 

I guess we have to be patient, as @Gandalf said, it could be as late as midnight.

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MisterW
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

and you MAY still get a dial tone after the phone service is ceased. Often Openreach don't actually disconnect the line at the exchange, they merely change it to a 'stopped' line. In this case you'll still get a dial tone but can't actually make calls ( apart from maybe the test number 17070 )

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QuantumGuy
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

I can at the moment still dial the number and the phone rings 

bgiles
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

UPDATE

Sometime in the past hour the switch was completed for me, without me knowing it had happened, I was even streaming at the time.

  • There was NO downtime to my broadband connection, the router didn't even disconnect/reconnect.
  • DECT phones that were on the PSTN did NOT indicate 'Check Line', as would happen if the cord was unplugged, but there's now no dial tone.
  • Analogue phone that was on PSTN is now dead, including the 'Amplify' indicator, which presumably was fed from the 50V PSTN.
  • Dialling the old landline number returns an engaged tone.

All in all, a painless experience.

 

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QuantumGuy
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

Exactly the same for me - sometime in the last hour without me realising it. No downtime and now no dial tone

Batfrog
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

I’m a few months to my contract end so obviously looking at options.

One question I’ve not seen (unless I’ve missed it) is can I have SoGEA  even though FTTP is the only option shown on the Plusnet website for my area.

You might think that is an odd thing to want but aside from the untidy external ‘wiring’ in evidence around here the internal location for an ONT, which I understand also needs a nearby power socket would be difficult and disruptive.

My modem/router is connected to an extension socket some distance from the master socket. Yes, yes I know it’s supposed to be plugged into the master socket but I still get 72mbs and no issues. I don't need or want anything faster.

jab1
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

@Batfrog Can you post the result of BT Broadband  - obscuring your phone number, please?

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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

See attached for line details. It looks as though I can Have SoGEA 

Thanks

 

jab1
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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

According to that SoGEA FTTC is available. You are aware there is no phone service with this product?

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Re: Changing to Broadband only and no phone

The exchange is shown as 'Fibre priority' , therefore if FTTP is available at the address ( and it is! ) then only FTTP can be ordered.

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