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Xbox one uses IPv6

MJN
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Re: Xbox one uses IPv6

Licensing? IPv6 is an open de facto standard.
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Licensing? IPv6 is an open de facto standard.

@'MJN' - you seem surprised at that suggestion !,  did you see who introduced that thought nonsense in Reply #8 ? -
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the cynic in me would lean towards them owning the protocol or otherwise gaining licence fees from its use

Crazy
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@ MJN
implementation licencing like Microsoft's proprietary Teredo tunnel system (which requires a licence) EA has a version cisco has a version
because right now its a way to get income from people making kit that complies operate on the legacy network ......
not licencing as making people pay to use ipv6 standard ......

sorry thought you were getting on the confusing bandwagon Wink
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
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Re: Xbox one uses IPv6

Oh dear, is this thread descending into 'nanotm' speculation again ?
Do you really think Sony would choose to use a proprietary IPv6 tunneling protocol, when there are open alternatives ?
MJN
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Re: Xbox one uses IPv6

No, Nanotm. Whilst Teredo was created by Microsoft it was passed and published through the IETF as an open standard. It does not require a licence to implement.
There are no seperate 'versions'. There's a standard specification and it is widely implemented.
PLEASE STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION
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if someone else made it there will be a licence fee involved, even gpl code requires businesses to buy a licence for there commercial use.
sony will most likely develop there own version but given the way they got burned previously they might not be willing to do that prior to release and instead do it later via firmware updates
@MJN
taken from the bottom of the document
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nowhere does it state they don't own licencing rights to it, it does say they want people to use there version as an internet standard
just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you
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further to my last http://ftp://www.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/microsoft-ipr-draft-huitema-v6ops-teredo.txt
an extract of which is
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_X__ Royalty-Free, Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All
Implementers
Check here if this licensing declaration is limited solely to
standards-track IETF documents _X__

which states there clearly wanting cash for its use but not for ietf document distribution and not from people who use it purely to provide support for the standard, which means anyone like Sony who uses it will be paying for it
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Re: Xbox one uses IPv6

You're not even reading what you're quoting!
Anyone is free to provide/consume a Teredo service. There are no royalties to be paid.
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Quote from: nanotm
sony will most likely develop there own version but given the way they got burned previously they might not be willing to do that prior to release and instead do it later via firmware updates


Sigh !
,  no they won't because that would be stupid.  Crazy
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even gpl code requires businesses to buy a licence for there commercial use.

As per usual from nanotm, this is incorrect.