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nonplusme
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Let us know you're not a robot

Can't access https://www.plus.net/ at all without letting them know I am not a robot by completing an effing google repactcha.

 

WHAT AN ASS HOLE MOVE PLUSNET.

 

Any company which helps google punish me for not keeping google cookies, for not using a google browser, not browsing the web logged into a google account so they can track everywhere I go on the internet 24/7 doesn't deserve my business. If this [-Censored-] stays I will be getting broadband from some one else.

 

And yeah I know most dumb fs on the internet don't even see google recaptchas because they do keep google.com cookies and do let google track everything they do on the internet 24/7.

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jab1
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

@nonplusme I do not use a Google browser, I do not have a Google account, and AFAIK, Google can't track me as I use a browser I can lock down to avoid that annoyance anyway.

Which browser do you use?

BTW - I can access that link with no Captcha's.

John
RobPN
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot


@jab1 wrote:

 

BTW - I can access that link with no Captcha's.


 

Likewise here @jab1 , even using Chrome, and I never log in to Google etc.

 

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Edit: to add quote

jab1
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

Actually, having just checked, I do have 'accounts', plural, with Google, but they are to enable me to use Gmail, if I get really desperate, but I don't seem to have logged into either of the mail accounts for over two years, and I never log into Google itself.

John
nonplusme
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

You don't get capatchas because google knows what you have been doing on the internet.

While I am sure using an google browser and being logged into a google account makes the presentation of google capatchas even less likely all google needs to track you and so know how you have been behaving (not like a robot for example) are cookies from google.com and/or gstatic.com and/or recaptcha.net.

If google wasn't tracking you so you did see a recaptcha you would also see links to google's privacy policy and terms. 

Plusnet is effectively requiring everyone to accept google's privacy policy and terms to be able to log into their plusnet account. 

If you did see a recaptcha you would also see this utter BS from plusnet.

"Help us keep you safe online. We just need to check you're not a pesky robot.

ReCAPTCHA is like digital door staff. It keeps out the robots and lets humans join the online party. Together we can beat scammers and keep the bots at bay.

To login follow the steps to verify you're not a robot"

jab1
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

@nonplusme It is a little early on a Sunday morning to try and decipher what you are trying to say, but as I and @RobPN  have said, we do not have this issue - me because I don't use a Google browser - or a Google account, and don't see this behaviour, and he because he does use a Google browser - but doesn't log into Google, your explanation does not hold water.

The browser I use can be locked down to prevent tracking - and is - so how do they track me?

As asked previously, which browser are you using?Huh

Are you using a VPN?

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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

I’ve never understood the point of capatchas. Well behaved bots can be stopped at the point of entry. Mischievous bots will carry on regardless.  In this example I don’t really think they’re interested in reading posts on a forum……

pvmb
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot


@nonplusme wrote:

You don't get capatchas because google knows what you have been doing on the internet.

 

 Well, I have to tell you, I deleted all the cookies in my browser then switched to private mode and came to this Plusnet Forum thread and connected to the site in your link without encountering any CAPTCHAs. I didn't try to log on - is that when you see them? That is when they are generally used, not just to access a site, IME.

jab1
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@pvmb wrote:

I didn't try to log on - is that when you see them?

I just got to the login page without encountering any, @pvmb  - didn't login though, but no captcha.

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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

Coincidentally this appeared on Facebook this afternoon. Unsure if this is an opinion or fact….

 

How do "I'm not a robot" checkboxes actually work?
 
Take a guess, and then get the answer. Is it based on your ability to click the box? How long you take to scroll? Or....?
 
When you check the "I'm not a robot" box on a reCAPTCHA, it’s not checking whether you can click a button. Here’s how it really works:
 
1. Analyzing Your Browser and Request Data
reCAPTCHA examines details about your browser and the information it sends with your request. Bots often use automated or unconventional browsers, which can be identified by analyzing browser headers and other metadata. Google’s extensive tracking network also helps verify legitimate users by recognizing familiar browsing patterns from other sites.
 
2. Observing Mouse Movements and Keystrokes
Human behavior, like mouse movements, clicks, and typing patterns, is tracked. Bots often perform these actions unnaturally—moving instantly to a specific area or clicking and releasing buttons too quickly. reCAPTCHA detects these discrepancies by analyzing timing and movement, which helps confirm you’re human.
 
3. Executing Browser Code
The script runs code from Google servers in your browser and expects a specific response within a short timeframe. Automated bots often struggle to mimic this behavior accurately, particularly if the code relies on hidden metrics tied to user interaction.
 
4. Scoring Likelihood of Being a Bot
Based on all the data collected, reCAPTCHA assigns a score indicating how likely you are to be a bot. If the score is below a certain threshold, you’ll be prompted to complete additional tasks like identifying images or solving a traditional CAPTCHA.
 
If you interact too quickly or don’t provide enough data (e.g., no mouse movements or keystrokes), the system may assume you’re a bot and require further verification. That’s why taking a moment to click the box after completing a form can help you avoid additional challenges — like the annoying photo selectors

 

jab1
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Re: Let us know you're not a robot

I would treat a great deal of what I see on FB with extreme caution.

John