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Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

scootie
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

good old BT still trying to destroy free speech on there forum
http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,89480.0.html
foxtrck
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

Any update on the court case?Huh
Seen this post on the blog page http://community.plus.net/blog/2010/10/04/weve-won-the-top10-com-award-for-best-value-broadband/ - made me laugh... looks like they are just trying to bump down the ACS law blog posts.
Steve
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We might not hear anything till near the end of the day.
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foxtrck
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

Depending whether it was a good or bad outcome!
We may just hear about the outcome from GM when they send us letters!!!!
fourfourdevon
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

@foxtrck, Plusnet may well have been naive, I certainly believe there were, and someone at BT was very stupid for sending the data unencrypted.  But I really don't buy this conspiracy type stuff you keep banging on with.  Plusnet will tell us what they feel they can when they can, and fhat will almost certainly be after others have told us pretty much what we want to hear.
If you want the latest, up to the date, wrong or right updates then read the Slyck thread on this.  But either way, please just stop posting a constant stream of negative comments and thoughts on every minutia of this thread.
Toolbox
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

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Min of Sound v BT/PlusNet hearing: Adjourned until 12 Jan for full day argument as BT & PN now resisting disclosure on security grounds.
https://twitter.com/major_clanger/status/26372724378

Looks like this thread will be running to next year then.
julesandsand
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

Oh well - will this thread now trundle on for another 3 months?
fourfourdevon
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They probably think they can win easiest on that, but I think Plusnet you need to prepare to object on other grounds too, you need to be prepared to argue that the accuracy of the data is so low that it is rendered more or less useless, cause of the solicitors can win the argument about keeping the data safe you will be left with serious egg on face again.
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Oh well - will this thread now trundle on for another 3 months?
lol, and more, the judgement will come probably 2 weeks after the hearing, and then there are the appeals...
You can see why Plusnet/BT wouldn't want to fight, its costs a lot of money and time, but now that a case is going to be argued in court expect a lot of time to pass (years) before it finally becomes resolved.
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

Yes but if each request is going to cost a lot of money will they bother?
Steve
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Well If that twitter link Is as good as It gets Then It Is a good move toward the right direction and will be a lesson learned for the future.
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Re: Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

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They probably think they can win easiest on that, but I think Plusnet you need to prepare to object on other grounds too, you need to be prepared to argue that the accuracy of the data is so low that it is rendered more or less useless, cause of the solicitors can win the argument about keeping the data safe you will be left with serious egg on face again.

They can argue that because Plusnet is so incompetent that the data is meaningless.
I hope Plusnet will be writing (via letter) to all of the affected people.

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I hope Plusnet will be writing (via letter) to all of the affected people.
Not sure what you mean?  There are no affected people yet, no court order has been granted (well in this case anyway).
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The non-encryption of data, the leaking etc are obviously important, and should never be allowed to happen again.
But, I just hope that the current fiasco does not cloud the main issue with regard to the granting, or not, of an NPO on Monday - ie - the flawed, unreliable and flimsy nature of the so-called evidence.

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Min of Sound v BT/PlusNet hearing: Adjourned until 12 Jan for full day argument as BT & PN now resisting disclosure on security grounds.


As I feared - they're not tackling the main issue.
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