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Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Townman
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Scott,
Thank you for fulfilling your commitment to provided an update of progress by today, even though you are out of the office doing once in a lifetime family stuff.  Congratulations to your sister.
A two part solution sounds like a plan - fix the cause first, then tidy up the historical consequences.  When you are back in the office, would it be possible to be given target dates for each phase please.  One understands that live service delivery issues will always need to come first, but a target would be good to have.
If I might ask, does the fix deliver correction to the listed token values and the totalling of the same?  Will the correction of historical payments take into consideration referred accounts which have now terminated?  Do you have a date from which the model was known to be broken please?  Personally I have never found a good correlation between listed tokens and the received referral discount value.  Since I have been on LSR (monthly subscription is less than the referral value) the "visible" referral value as been "capped" to the subscription value.
I guess it would be useful to learn of the scope of the fix, so that those of us who have concerns over referrals (I do not think there is just one issue) could indicate if there is anything else outside of the scope of planned fixes.
Regards,
Kevin

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gofaster
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Quote from: Chris
It will be going in a batch of fixes that we will be releasing in December at the latest

I am willing to wager my entire Decembers referral value on this not happening - any takers?
Pettitto
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

I am quite confident that a fix isn't too far away on this one, as Scott has mentioned.
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Quote from: gofaster

I am willing to wager my entire Decembers referral value on this not happening - any takers?

I think I am with you on this one but I have to say that I don't think its a lack of effort from the PN staff though  Cool
gofaster
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

: Huh I don't think this one can be blamed on "our suppliers"  Crazy
kitz
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

I wouldnt bet on it either. 
The referral situation and lack of movement is pathetically slow.
Plusnet you really need to get your act together on this.
reserved
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

I somehow think that that if the problem caused us to owe PN money rather than the other way round then the "fix" would have happened sooner  Huh
orbrey
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Hi, we know it's not good but a fix is being worked on, I'll ask Chris to pop in with the latest update next week.
ScottStorey
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Hi All,
Just to give a quick update on this.
I'm currently in the process of writing the tests to confirm the fix has worked while the developer finishes off the fix.
Most of the things that have been above the referrals issue in our development stack are now in the final stages of testing, putting referrals right at the top of the list of things left to do.
Townman
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Scott,
Thank you for the update and keeping customers informed.  I look forward to news that the fixes have passed testing and get have been implemented.  Might we expect separate advice on the correction to historical discount billing please?
Cheers,
Kevin

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ScottStorey
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Good question Kevin,
It's now going to happen at the same time. Turns out it was easier than first thought to find the affected accounts.
MisterW
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Yes, I would have thought it's a simple matter of finding any accounts with an active referral whose token value is £0.0 Smiley

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Townman
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

From my experience, I think it is more complicated than that.  Referral tokens being zero is I suspect but one of several problems.

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MisterW
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

You're probably right, I thought it was a simple 0.0 token value error but I've just reread your first post on here and you seem to have other strange total values which I guess may ( or not ) be related.

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ScottStorey
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Re: Referral discount calculation changed yet again!

Actually not miles off with that MisterW!
The complications have been caused, admittedly, by ourselves having it take so long.
So we are having to deal with extra complications such as people moving between packages with different referral values.