Stop censoring me
Quote from: kged Stop this or lose my custom.
Bye
Andrews & Arnold
[quote=http://aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-realinternet.html]Data logging
We do not log which websites you visit (though the website administrator may). We don't run any sort of transparent proxies or other systems to covertly log what you do on the internet, and do not sell data to anyone. We specifically monitor traffic levels and make this available to you. If we are helping you debug a problem we can monitor traffic for you in real time, but we don't record that. We also take occasional random traffic snapshots periodically which we hold for 24 hours - this is only to help identify causes of network load problems after the event. All of our servers which you use (e.g. email, web servers, etc.) have logs which are kept for a few months, but you do not have to use our servers if you do not want to. We have not yet been required to retain communications data for 12 months under the new legislation. We do not run anything like Phorm and never will.
Censoring
It is not our role to try and censor what you do with the internet. We do not try and log or limit what you are accessing. It is your responsibility to stick to the laws that apply to you. We have no intention of putting in place any censorship systems or using censored transit feeds.
Censorship systems are usually introduced under the guise of some emotive topic such as stopping child abuse which nobody could argue with. Such systems are very very unlikely to have any actual impact at all on the actual problem they claim to solve. Such systems often break or hinder the normal working of the internet, as seen by wikipedia recently. They are usually easy to circumvent. If they work at all then they just drive the offensive use underground and using encryption so making it harder to find and deal with. They are also the thin end of the wedge as once a system is in place then adding more is easy. Bear in mind most ISPs using such systems then have no control over what is censored or why. If we accept censorship for child abuse, then we have to accept it for terrorism, and then maybe political extremist views, and then maybe not so extreme views, and maybe wrong thinking or pictures of policeman (oh wait, that was just made illegal too!)... "then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out".
Black boxes
We have no so called black boxes to covertly monitor traffic and/or pass traffic monitoring to the authorities or anyone else. Obviously the law is such that we may have to add such black boxes, but we would resist as far as possible. We may even find we are not allowed to change this web page if ever that happens. However, I, as director, am happy to answer direct questions on this matter on irc (user RevK) or on usenet and you can get paranoid if I refuse to.
[quote=http://aaisp.net.uk/kb-broadband-realinternet.html]Data logging
We do not log which websites you visit (though the website administrator may). We don't run any sort of transparent proxies or other systems to covertly log what you do on the internet, and do not sell data to anyone. We specifically monitor traffic levels and make this available to you. If we are helping you debug a problem we can monitor traffic for you in real time, but we don't record that. We also take occasional random traffic snapshots periodically which we hold for 24 hours - this is only to help identify causes of network load problems after the event. All of our servers which you use (e.g. email, web servers, etc.) have logs which are kept for a few months, but you do not have to use our servers if you do not want to. We have not yet been required to retain communications data for 12 months under the new legislation. We do not run anything like Phorm and never will.
Censoring
It is not our role to try and censor what you do with the internet. We do not try and log or limit what you are accessing. It is your responsibility to stick to the laws that apply to you. We have no intention of putting in place any censorship systems or using censored transit feeds.
Censorship systems are usually introduced under the guise of some emotive topic such as stopping child abuse which nobody could argue with. Such systems are very very unlikely to have any actual impact at all on the actual problem they claim to solve. Such systems often break or hinder the normal working of the internet, as seen by wikipedia recently. They are usually easy to circumvent. If they work at all then they just drive the offensive use underground and using encryption so making it harder to find and deal with. They are also the thin end of the wedge as once a system is in place then adding more is easy. Bear in mind most ISPs using such systems then have no control over what is censored or why. If we accept censorship for child abuse, then we have to accept it for terrorism, and then maybe political extremist views, and then maybe not so extreme views, and maybe wrong thinking or pictures of policeman (oh wait, that was just made illegal too!)... "then they came for me and there was no-one left to speak out".
Black boxes
We have no so called black boxes to covertly monitor traffic and/or pass traffic monitoring to the authorities or anyone else. Obviously the law is such that we may have to add such black boxes, but we would resist as far as possible. We may even find we are not allowed to change this web page if ever that happens. However, I, as director, am happy to answer direct questions on this matter on irc (user RevK) or on usenet and you can get paranoid if I refuse to.
@Adam - I think you are missing the point that the OP was trying to make.
'kged' did NOT say they were being incorrectly filtered, but because the sites that were being accessed were going via the proxy, the spoofing of the sending IP address was causing the wanted service to not be fully accessible.
According to http://www.plus.net/support/security/abuse/iwffaq.shtml
If 'kged' was being filtered then they would be complaining about being redirected to the Plusnet IWF landing page.
What 'kged' is asking for, is to NOT be routed via the Plusnet/IWF proxy as that is interfering with the wanted website.
This unwanted routing via the proxy is happening because a different website containing possibly inappropriate material happens to be located on the same webhost, and is not related to the web pages that 'kged' is trying to access.
Quote from: kged I have found that I am unable to use the internet freely because Plusnet is sending me through a proxy, interfering with my ability to fully utilise some sites. On said sites my IP address shows as being completely different to my actual IP address, indicating that I have been routed through a proxy. I don't want this, I haven't asked for this, and it is to stop ASAP.
'kged' did NOT say they were being incorrectly filtered, but because the sites that were being accessed were going via the proxy, the spoofing of the sending IP address was causing the wanted service to not be fully accessible.
According to http://www.plus.net/support/security/abuse/iwffaq.shtml
Quote 4. How does the filtering work?
When you click on a link or enter an address into your web browser, this sends a request to our network routers.
Our routers check the IP Address of the server that the website you want to visit is hosted on. If the IP address matches that of a server that's used to host one of the websites on the IWF list then your request is diverted to a proxy server.
The proxy server will check if the site address you're trying to visit is on the IWF list. If it is, you'll be re-directed to this page to let you know what's happened. If not then the webpage you've requested will load as normal.
If 'kged' was being filtered then they would be complaining about being redirected to the Plusnet IWF landing page.
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What 'kged' is asking for, is to NOT be routed via the Plusnet/IWF proxy as that is interfering with the wanted website.
This unwanted routing via the proxy is happening because a different website containing possibly inappropriate material happens to be located on the same webhost, and is not related to the web pages that 'kged' is trying to access.