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16-10-2014 10:05 PM
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It could still be related to work being done on the BNGs intending to avoid another mass disconnect, e.g. something might have been changed with the intention of preventing ptn-bng01 from becoming overloaded, which inadvertently caused problems for people trying to connect.
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
16-10-2014 10:22 PM
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I am also thinking along the same lines tbh
However no amount of speculation or making any such logical deductions is actual fact(s) of the matter in hand
However no amount of speculation or making any such logical deductions is actual fact(s) of the matter in hand
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
16-10-2014 10:45 PM
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It doesn't matter what speculation or logical deductions you do or do not make. It is patently evident from the statements of 4 different members of Plusnet staff that there's been no "drops in connection/outage".
ejs may well be right with his inspired guess, but it hasn't involved any outage (nor did he imply that it did).
ejs may well be right with his inspired guess, but it hasn't involved any outage (nor did he imply that it did).
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
16-10-2014 11:15 PM
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Again from the Service status, this time via a screenshot & is click-able to make the image larger if required
Please quote the 4 different Plusnets staff members posts where they have stated the words "No drops in connection / outage" since in this case you are calling Luke a liar
Chris Pettitt was unable to comment as he was not in the office
Luke clearly stated what is in the SS message
Linn Karstrom only mentioned where customers are not able to establish a connection in the original message
Scott Storey
That is your 4 Plusnet members of staff
Where did you see any indication that ejs implied any outage or where are you deducing that from ?
Please quote the 4 different Plusnets staff members posts where they have stated the words "No drops in connection / outage" since in this case you are calling Luke a liar
Chris Pettitt was unable to comment as he was not in the office
Luke clearly stated what is in the SS message
Linn Karstrom only mentioned where customers are not able to establish a connection in the original message
Scott Storey
Quote from: Scott <snip>
you would be best waiting for CRT to post any info tomorrow as to why the SS was posted.
If there was anything critical that had gone down that was affecting a large number of customers like previous outages Linn would no doubt be all over the forums and twitter with updates.
<snip>
That is your 4 Plusnet members of staff
Where did you see any indication that ejs implied any outage or where are you deducing that from ?
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
17-10-2014 12:08 AM
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For goodness sake, stop and read what is being written!!!
The point is that the problem today, whatever it is, did not kick people off. Connections drop all the time for all manner of reasons (just look at your router's connection uptime periodically) and if this happened today there may have been a problem re-establishing a working connection.
It's really not difficult!!!
The point is that the problem today, whatever it is, did not kick people off. Connections drop all the time for all manner of reasons (just look at your router's connection uptime periodically) and if this happened today there may have been a problem re-establishing a working connection.
It's really not difficult!!!
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
17-10-2014 12:39 AM
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As ever, TORPC you have this unfortunate attitude and a deliberate knack of not only attempting to twist what people say, but you are grossly provocative in the way you say it.
Not only that, I did not say that ejs implied an outage. The remark "(nor did he imply it did)" was purely for your benefit just in case you chose to try and interpret his remark as meaning it did.
There is a difference between implication and interpretation. The key words in Luke's statement are "or anyone who has" which does not mean "or those that will have". There is a multitude of reasons external to the Plusnet Network as to why someone may "lose" a connection - one example of which is rebooting their equipment.
Now you accuse me of calling Luke a liar - A libel, because I most certainly have not. Luke is an extremely helpful and diligent member of the CRT.
You choose to read more into what Luke has said, than has actually happened and no doubt more than he actually implied or meant.
There are far too many incidents around this forum where you choose to try and make mountains out of molehills and are offensive about it as well.
I suggest you take a leaf out of your own book, read Your own forum rules 1 & 7 and go and read This forum's rules
And to quote a response to one of your other objectionable and offensive posts elsewhere
And that is a mere understatement.
Not only that, I did not say that ejs implied an outage. The remark "(nor did he imply it did)" was purely for your benefit just in case you chose to try and interpret his remark as meaning it did.
There is a difference between implication and interpretation. The key words in Luke's statement are "or anyone who has" which does not mean "or those that will have". There is a multitude of reasons external to the Plusnet Network as to why someone may "lose" a connection - one example of which is rebooting their equipment.
Now you accuse me of calling Luke a liar - A libel, because I most certainly have not. Luke is an extremely helpful and diligent member of the CRT.
You choose to read more into what Luke has said, than has actually happened and no doubt more than he actually implied or meant.
There are far too many incidents around this forum where you choose to try and make mountains out of molehills and are offensive about it as well.
I suggest you take a leaf out of your own book, read Your own forum rules 1 & 7 and go and read This forum's rules
And to quote a response to one of your other objectionable and offensive posts elsewhere
Quote If I'm honest, I really do not appreciate your attitude. there are ways of getting your point across and I'm afraid, in this instance, I'm not going to reply any further.
And that is a mere understatement.
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
17-10-2014 1:22 AM
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Lost / Dropped connection(s) as you so aptly say happen for all manner of reasons (which can include I repeat Can Include being kicked off) for whatever reason(s), although I never stated that those lost / dropped connections were due to being kicked off
Either way the connection for some had clearly gone their separate way from establishing a viable connection & had trouble in re-establishing that connection
Why those that Lost / dropped an established connection to which Luke referenced in the Updated SS message, only Plusnet can advise
I was however sticking to the factual content that is clearly in black & white
@Anotherone
You clearly stated that 4 yes 4 members of plusnet staff said the opposite of what can be seen in Lukes updated SS message,
OK I may have inadvertently come across a bit strong with the word Liar, & for which I apologise & since you pointing that out to me I realise that should of said something more like mistaken, instead.
I have stated previously references to which I am not Wordsworth / Shakespeare etc, & I say it as I see it. (surely I am not the only one in this world ??)
In reference to the mention of ejs implying an outage I asked where did you see any indication or where are you deducing that from (was merely wondering from why you mentioned it in the first place) I did not say "You implied that ejs implied an outage "
I am fully aware of the fact that there are both internal & external factors for the various reasons why a connection would get lost / dropped or (whichever way anyone would care to phrase it)
Perhaps I may be inadvertently reading more to what Luke has typed, however until we have an official answer from Plusnet, we may never know.
Did you not see / read & for clarification purposes
Edit:
Before I forget
If wanting to dot the I's & cross the T's / Putting all the ducks in a row / leaving no stone unturned / wanting to understand as fully as is possible etc, is making mountains out of molehills then I apologise that you unfortunately see it as such.
Either way the connection for some had clearly gone their separate way from establishing a viable connection & had trouble in re-establishing that connection
Why those that Lost / dropped an established connection to which Luke referenced in the Updated SS message, only Plusnet can advise
I was however sticking to the factual content that is clearly in black & white
@Anotherone
You clearly stated that 4 yes 4 members of plusnet staff said the opposite of what can be seen in Lukes updated SS message,
OK I may have inadvertently come across a bit strong with the word Liar, & for which I apologise & since you pointing that out to me I realise that should of said something more like mistaken, instead.
I have stated previously references to which I am not Wordsworth / Shakespeare etc, & I say it as I see it. (surely I am not the only one in this world ??)
In reference to the mention of ejs implying an outage I asked where did you see any indication or where are you deducing that from (was merely wondering from why you mentioned it in the first place) I did not say "You implied that ejs implied an outage "
Quote from: TORPC <snip>
Where did you see any indication that ejs implied any outage or where are you deducing that from ?
I am fully aware of the fact that there are both internal & external factors for the various reasons why a connection would get lost / dropped or (whichever way anyone would care to phrase it)
Perhaps I may be inadvertently reading more to what Luke has typed, however until we have an official answer from Plusnet, we may never know.
Did you not see / read & for clarification purposes
Quote I now feel hurt , by your insinuation, & do not like the fact, that you think I am, having an attitude, & you wish to no longer discuss the truth
If asking with a sincerity of Please & also providing a wink, is giving attitude, I would not like to see, what you would class a no please & no wink, as.
<snip>
Please bear in mind & be advised, that my post(s) are not giving attitude in any way shape or form, they are just emphasising, on the state of play that was never delivered
If we were talking face to face it would be more like friendly banter in the pub (for example)
<snip>
I can assure you, I have no attitude towards you, however you so clearly think I do.
Edit:
Before I forget
If wanting to dot the I's & cross the T's / Putting all the ducks in a row / leaving no stone unturned / wanting to understand as fully as is possible etc, is making mountains out of molehills then I apologise that you unfortunately see it as such.
Re: Today's reason to switch your Router off for 1 hour (SS Update New)
17-10-2014 7:48 AM
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