Video downloads from youtube

[#1]

I was downloading music videos from youtube, using 4kVideoDownload, but that has stopped now, firstly because 4kVideo versions since 4.19.3 insist on at least Win 10 or later, therefore I've been stuck on 4.19.3 since it came out. 4.19.3 still worked and I still used it.

Then youtube seems to have done something which allows me to watch and hear the video, but 4kVideo cannot Parse the video, even though I can copy the 'traditional' ID of the video, and paste it into 4kVideo. Quite what 4kVideo can download now, I dont know. 4kVideo dont seem to be sympathetic because I am using Win 7, so my question is "does anyone know what I can either do to get 4kVideo to work, or do you know something that I could use instead of 4kVideo?"

Do I have to pay youtube now (or even 4kVideo), or will not even paying for it solve the problem? I dont download much these days. I got most of what I wanted back in the pre 4.19.3 days

My thanks for any help

[#2]

Are you using Firefox ?

If so there is a  Add-on  called  Private Video Downloader... that MAY work... not tried it... 

Also, does your 4KVideo downloader need permission ( on firefox ) for working in "private windows".

[#3]

Hello @shutter . No I haven't got Firefox. I can see about installing it. Will get back to you to let you know the result. That may take a while because I have to go out so I wont be able to start this side of about 9p.m.

Cheers

[#4]

Hello @shutter 

I am still using Win 7, and guess what - when I tried to install Firefox, the first thing I saw was that Firefox no longer supports Win 8.1 or earlier

Thanks for the suggestion

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@penneck wrote:

I was downloading music videos from youtube, using 4kVideoDownload, but that has stopped now, firstly because 4kVideo versions since 4.19.3 insist on at least Win 10 or later, therefore I've been stuck on 4.19.3 since it came out. 4.19.3 still worked and I still used it.

Then youtube seems to have done something which allows me to watch and hear the video, but 4kVideo cannot Parse the video, even though I can copy the 'traditional' ID of the video, and paste it into 4kVideo. Quite what 4kVideo can download now, I dont know. 4kVideo dont seem to be sympathetic because I am using Win 7, so my question is "does anyone know what I can either do to get 4kVideo to work, or do you know something that I could use instead of 4kVideo?"

Do I have to pay youtube now (or even 4kVideo), or will not even paying for it solve the problem? I dont download much these days. I got most of what I wanted back in the pre 4.19.3 days

My thanks for any help

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@penneck 

I just tried one of my Windows 7 PCs which has 4K Video Downloader installed on it.  The version is later than the one you quoted above and it downloaded a music video from YouTube just fine.  Upon opening 4K Video Downloader I was even offered a later version (which I declined).

Version and downloaded video as shown in the screenshot below;

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@penneck wrote:

Hello @shutter 

I am still using Win 7, and guess what - when I tried to install Firefox, the first thing I saw was that Firefox no longer supports Win 8.1 or earlier

Thanks for the suggestion

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OK.. so you need to find an earlier version compatible with Win 7 ...

from google search for Download Firefox for Windows 7 ...

route 1.....

Or Route 2  ..

https://en.softonic.com/downloads/mozilla-firefox-for-windows-7

[#7]

How strange! I've had the people at 4kVideo involved in this problem (or variants of it) since 4.19.3 was replaced. In the end they gave up, and I can only assume the thing about Win 7 may just be an excuse because they cannot figure it out. 

I'm beginning to think that, as you can use a later version of 4kVideo with Win 7 without problem, that there is something on my pc that is blocking things. How on earth do I solve that? I do seem to have problems with other things. For example, opening this reply took a long time before I could start typing. I have other things that seem to be slower than they used to be. Opening Chrome can occasionally take a long time (not every time). Do you remember that scandal when a phone maker deliberately slowed down their old phones? Is this something similar?

I run Malwarebytes, Microsoft Security Essentila, and Spybot SD to prevent nasties getting on my pc, so what should I try next

[#8]

Hello @shutter .

I've just tried your first suggestion, but when I selected Microsoft Store (your instruction no. 3) it didn't respond in time. This is a problem I have had of and on for a while now, where trying to get something over the web has timed out. It doesn't happen all the time, and tends to be in those things I dont access all that often, if more than once.

Therefore, it seems to me that there is a problem between my pc and the outside world. It could be in my pc, in my modem, in the telephone system, who knows. Should I ask Plusnet to test my line? How close can they get to my pc?

[#9]

@penneck How big is your hard drive and how much room is left on it? Have you defragged it recently?

[#10]

@penneck OK... so, route 1 failed.   did you try route 2... direct download  from that site  ? ( make sure you get the right version...i.e  32bit or 64bit for your win7 version.

You can ask PN to check your line....  not sure how far it get "in" to your computer... probably from their gear up to  you exchange, or maybe the nearest green box to you.

Presumably you have a filter in line from your router to the "Master Socket". and you are directly connected from your computer/laptop to the router via a cable?

You can also check it your self with Routerstats Lite  http://www.vwlowen.co.uk/internet/betatesters.htm 

download here.... https://routerstats-lite.software.informer.com/6.8/

and a few speed tests results from OOKLA speed test. to check the actual speed of the connection.

[#11]

@jab1 

Have just defragged it. No change as far as 4kVideo is concerned, but thanks for the suggestion.

[#12]

Hello @shutter . Lets step back to your Route 2. Bearing in mind your warning about getting the right version, I went to that htpps address you included and found "Mozilla Firefox For Win 7", but there are several versions, the latest being 117. There isn't, at that point, any indication that V117 will be the latest that will work with Win 7, because the description also appears to talk about Win 10. Nor is there any guidance whether it is 32-bit or 64-bit, so I have erred on the side of caution and stopped.

As for the checking the line, I haven't started that yet, but will try your Routerstats process in a few minutes

[#13]

@shutter . Have installed your suggested Routerstat software. Have you ever used it. In the list of Netgear routers, it included the DG834(G), which is what my present (yet now old) Netgear router replaced many years ago, but doesn't include my present Netgear DGN2200 router. The nearest it gets is DGN1000. Also, if I try using the DGN1000 instead, it asks for the security details of the router, which I am loath to provide, just in case.

Am I being too cautious?

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@penneck wrote:

Hello @shutter . Lets step back to your Route 2. Bearing in mind your warning about getting the right version, I went to that htpps address you included and found "Mozilla Firefox For Win 7", but there are several versions, the latest being 117. There isn't, at that point, any indication that V117 will be the latest that will work with Win 7, because the description also appears to talk about Win 10. Nor is there any guidance whether it is 32-bit or 64-bit, so I have erred on the side of caution and stopped.

As for the checking the line, I haven't started that yet, but will try your Routerstats process in a few minutes

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@penneck See if you can find a copy of FF115 - that is the last supported on W7. I think there should be an option to select 32/64bit at some stage,  but I can't confirm - I don't use Windows .

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OK. Firefox first.

On that link , Look to the right of "Free open-source browser" and you will see  App Specs

drop your view down a bit,..... to a little box marked Version,   and it shows 117.0  says it is for Windows 11..

BUT.... if you click the "down arrow" in that box, you get a long list of previous versions going some way back.

@jab1   suggests that 115 was the last version for windows 7.... I thought it was earlier, but worth a try,... if it downloads and installs, GREAT... if not try a couple of earlier versions, until you get one that does install. 

As for  Routerstats.

it is asking for your router login, because it needs to "connect" to the router while it is connect to PN ADSL . otherwise it cannot do it`s stuff... perfectly safe, its only "listening"  and then analysing, and producing the charts. ( PN equipment also accesses your line to do the same ! )

 Been using it for years, and it has not done me any harm... ( ask the missus ! ! ! ! ) .