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random dropouts
14-08-2022 6:44 PM
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My father is a customer, who appears to be getting a minimum of 5 "random" dropouts a day/
they occur at random times, and last for random intervals.
I have gone through the trouble shooting guides re master socket and rebooting and resetting the router, but they are still occurring.
Apparently this has been an ongoing issue since at least the start of the year, but i have only just been informed
Does anyone know what can be done to remedy this
Re: random dropouts
14-08-2022 6:51 PM
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@Andrew12 Difficult to answer your 'Does anyone know what can be done to remedy this' question without more detail. Are these 'drop-outs' the router or the wireless connection, how do they manifest themselves, and do they correct without intervention?
I will post below a list of checks which may help other Community members to advise.
For Community members to be able to help, information from these two sites, as screenshots, posted as pictures within the topic, not as attachments:-
BT Broadband(obscuring your phone number) and BTW Performance Tester - Over a wired (ethernet) connection if at all possible, please report the 'ADDITIONAL DIAGNOSTICS', and sight of the broadband connection status from your Hub would be a good starting point.
For the Hub One -
Navigate from the Home Screen to Troubleshooting > Helpdesk
For the Hub Two -
Navigate from the Home Screen to Advanced Settings > Technical Log > Information
It may also be a good idea to report the results of a Quiet Line Test - dial 17070 option 2 from a (preferably corded) phone. After the confirmation of your phone number, there should be total silence apart from the regular 'Quiet Line Test' announcement. Any other noise - report a PHONE fault first.
If phone test is OK then take the front off your telephone master socket, you may need to remove two screws. In behind you will find the test socket. Plug a filter in here and connect that to your hub. If it’s still dropping out then report a fault at https://www.plus.net/help/report-a-problem/broadband/
Re: random dropouts
14-08-2022 7:01 PM
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Will try the line test and the recommendations and get back to you
Re: random dropouts
14-08-2022 7:03 PM
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OK, sounds like an external issue, but without the results from the tests I requested, it is difficult to be certain.
Re: random dropouts
16-08-2022 1:41 PM
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I have found this can happen when router gets overloaded which doesn't take that many devices which is why you see some providers mention about limited devices now.
Re: random dropouts
16-08-2022 1:46 PM - edited 16-08-2022 2:01 PM
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@MillerJones The OPs problem has nothing to do with the number of devices connected (wirelessly or otherwise) - it is clearly, from their description of the Hubs lights behaviour, a problem most likely in the BT/OR infrastructure, which is why I requested the information I did, above.
@Andrew12 Ignore the post from MillerJones - it is of no relevance to your issue.
Re: random dropouts
16-08-2022 3:53 PM
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You need to learn what fault finding is and people try what they can on there end first.
It may well be nothing to do with this which yes 99% it wont but its possible.
Re: random dropouts
16-08-2022 9:21 PM
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@MillerJones With all due respect - I do know what fault-finding is - I have spent around 20 years on various tech/ISP support forums and 45+ years of computer/IT real-world problem solving, so I think I know what I'm talking about.
Re: random dropouts
17-08-2022 5:54 PM
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Hi @Andrew12,
I'm really sorry to see your father's having connection issues.
If this is still the case, could you private message me his account username so I can take a look?
Re: random dropouts
17-08-2022 6:58 PM
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Re: connected Devices.
there are at most 4 mobiles connected, 1 x laptop, 1 x desktop and 1 x skybox, all connected wirelessly. during the day when this occurs, there isare only the computers and the sky box connected.
The quite line test gave no discernable noise other the the quiet line test talking
BT Broadband check.
Featured Products | Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Downstream Handback Threshold(Mbps) |
WBC FTTC Availability Date | WBC SOGEA Availability Date | Left in Jumper | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
High | Low | High | Low | |||||
VDSL Range A (Clean) | 61.8 | 43 | 13.6 | 8.6 | 35 | Available | Available | -- |
VDSL Range B (Impacted) | 60.7 | 40 | 13.4 | 8.1 | 35 | Available | Available | -- |
Featured Products | Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Downstream Range (Mbps) | Availability Date | FTTP Install Process |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
FTTP on Demand | 330 | 50 | -- | Available | -- |
ADSL Products | Downstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Downstream Range(Mbps) | ADSL Availability Date | Left in Jumper |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
WBC ADSL 2+ | Up to 1 | -- | 1 to 3 | Available | -- |
ADSL Max | Up to 0.75 | -- | 0.75 to 2.5 | Available | -- |
WBC Fixed Rate | 1 | -- | -- | Available | -- |
Fixed Rate | 1 | -- | -- | Available | -- |
SOADSL Products | Downstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Upstream Line Rate (Mbps) | Downstream Range(Mbps) | WBC SOADSL Availability Date | Left in Jumper |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
WBC SOADSL 2+ | Up to 1 | -- | 1 to 3 | -- | -- |
SOADSL Max | Up to 0.75 | -- | -- | -- | |
SOADSL Fixed Rate | Up to 1 | -- | 0.75 to 2.5 | -- | -- |
Observed Speeds | VDSL |
---|---|
Max Observed Downstream Speed | 25 |
Max Observed Upstream Speed | 4.29 |
Observed Date | 2022-08-16 |
Other Offerings | Availability Date |
---|---|
VDSL Multicast | Available |
ADSL Multicast | Available |
Premise Environment | Status |
---|---|
Bridge Tap | U |
VRI | -- |
NTE FacePlate | -- |
Last Test Date | 02-07-2022 |
Exchange Product Restrictions | Status |
---|---|
FTTP Priority Exchange | N |
WLR Withdrawal | N |
SOADSL Restriction | Y |
The exchange is not in a current fibre priority programme
WLR is currently available at the exchange
SOADSL is restricted at the exchange
FTTP is not available.
For all ADSL and WBC Fibre to the Cabinet (VDSL or G.fast) services, the stable line rate will be determined during the first 10 days of service usage.
Actual speeds experienced by end users and quoted by CPs will be lower due to a number of factors within and external to BT's network, Communication Providers' networks and within customer premises.
The Stop Sale date for IPstream is from 30 Nov 2012. The Formal Retirement date for IPstream is from 30 Jun 2014.
If you decide to place an order for a WBC fibre product, an appointment may be required for an engineer to visit the end user's premises to supply the service
In order to be eligible for handback, downstream speed should be less than Downstream Handback Threshold values.
Mildenhall exchange:Only single order products are available and ADSL and ADSL2+ products are not shown as available.However for premises that can only be served by SOADSL, BT will continue to accept ADSL and ADSL2+ orders until SOADSL is available.
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Re: random dropouts
17-08-2022 7:07 PM
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Thanks for the detail and private message!
I've tested your father's line and the tests are showing what's known as an "Impairment in copper joint" so I'd like to arrange an Openreach engineer who will need access to his property to carry out an investigation.
Would you happen to know when he could be available for a visit? The engineers are available weekday timeslots (and occasionally Saturday's) of 8am to 1pm or 1pm to 6pm. If you can let me know, I'll be happy to arrange it.
Re: random dropouts
17-08-2022 7:08 PM - edited 17-08-2022 7:10 PM
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@Andrew12 Thanks for that information - it confirms my initial suspicions - you are losing xDSL for some reason - I suspect a fault somewhere upstream from the property in the BT/OR network. Sorry to ask, because I'm sure it is, but is the Hub left powered on 24/7/
If you could make a reply on here - to enable you to send private messages (and confirm my question), I suggest you then PM @Gandalf with the information he has requested.
EDIT @Gandalf beat me to it as I was typing. I'll leave it in his capable hands, but will watch the topic until you confirm it fixed.
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17-08-2022 11:38 PM
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18-08-2022 2:20 PM
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21-08-2022 7:12 PM
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