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Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

chartford
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Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

I'm a bit confused about the Pro add on now too.  I've had the add on ever since joining Plusnet for fibre broadband earlier this year, and certainly I've never had a problem with speeds for my home working when the kids get home from school (as I used to with O2 broadband) or in streaming Netflix etc in the peak evening times.
What happens now?  Plusnet say in their FAQ that there possibly isn't any benefit in keeping the Pro add on with the new Unlimited Fibre, but I'm not sure I entirely understand why?  All credit to Plusnet for being honest about this and not trying to rake in more money when it isn't necessary, but I'm wary of cancelling the Pro add on until I understand exactly what it means.
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Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

You can cancel and reinstate it almost overnight so just try it
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Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

That went smoothly enough. The internet connection dropped briefly and that was it.
No change apart from what it says in the picture.
chartford
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Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

Quote from: Oldjim
You can cancel and reinstate it almost overnight so just try it

I'll do that Oldjim, thanks.  I don't use anywhere near 250GB a month at the moment, but Unlimited means it's nice not to have to even think about it when downloading the video boxsets from iTunes and streaming iPlayer and Netflix.    Plus more and more of my stuff is now kept in iCloud and streamed down, so I will use more in future.
 
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Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

There seems to be some confusion about what the Pro add-on did on the old products and I suspect some people were paying for it when it was giving them minimal benefit.
Pro add-on was NOT a "make everything go faster".
It had two benefits:
  • If you were regularly using things like P2P, binary Usenet or downloading from download servers which were slowed down at certain times of the day it lifted them from the bronze or silver traffic queues to gold so they were not slowed down.
  • If you were running games or something else which was not recognised by the traffic management and hence defaulted to a low priority they would be affected by the higher priority traffic (both your traffic and the total traffic on the Plusnet system). The add-on lifted them to gold.
    With Unlimited none of the traffic queues get slowed down except in times of exceptional high load. The circumstances under which the Pro add-on would be beneficial are about as rare as hens teeth.
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    HairyMcbiker
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    Got to love the "0KB allowance"!!  Cheesy
    Chris
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    We've got a problem raised internally on that as it's a bit misleading.
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    chartford
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    Quote from: jelv

    With Unlimited none of the traffic queues get slowed down except in times of exceptional high load. The circumstances under which the Pro add-on would be beneficial are about as rare as hens teeth.

    Thanks Jelv.  So in fact keeping Pro Add-on for Fibre Unlimited wouldn't help for Spotify, Netflix  or P2P etc. anyway?  These things always confuse me.
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    Quote from: aeroalfie
    Thanks Jameseh,
    Just to confirm i dont need to change phone line providers (currently BT) to get Plusnet Unlimited £9.99 broadband?

    No you don't.
    Quote from: AdamGayne
    I have been a customer for over 18 months now, I would like to switch but I don't like signing up to lengthy contracts for anything where I can help it.
    I assume that even as an existing customer, I need to sign up for the contract to get unlimited for £9.99

    Yes.
    Quote from: AdamGayne
    Do still have to pay £12.49 for unlimited?

    Yes, if you're not wanting to re-contract.
    Quote from: dfunked
    As I've just moved house and chose to absorb the fees rather than paying upfront, would my cancellation charge now be £65 + whatever the new cessation charges of the 12 month contract are? (Not planning on leaving any time soon of course, I'm just a bit curious...)

    To be honest, I've a feeling the £65 deferred contract might be written off. I'd have to check though...
    Quote from: dfunked
    I noticed the following closed ticket on my account after ordering the new package this morning. Does this mean I'll have to ask for my upload to be uncapped again next month?...

    It's a known problem (ref: 73795). I've just cancelled the modify order so it don't complete (the account change will still happen though).
    Quote from: ReedRichards
    I am wondering about the "We won't be beat(en) on price" promise attached to Plusnet Value broadband.  Now Plusnet have brought out a new product, Essentials, that does beat Value on price on Market 2/3 exchanges, doesn't that mean they have to reduce the cost of their Value product to match?  
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    WE WON'T BE BEAT ON PRICE
    You won't find a lower price for standalone broadband
    If another provider says they can offer you the lowest priced broadband in your area, just give us a call. No matter where you live in the UK, we're happy to hear from you.
    Not only will we match any genuine price for standalone broadband*, but we may even be able to beat it. What's more, you might even be able to get both Plusnet broadband and phone together for less!
    How our price promise works
    Our price promise is on Plusnet Value Broadband versus the lowest cost standalone broadband product available from a competitor. It covers the total cost of broadband (subscription + setup costs) over the competitor contract length, up to 24 months.
    What is standalone broadband?
    Standalone means the price for 'just broadband' without phone or TV bundled in. You'll still need a landline to get our service, but we'll tell you if yours is compatible with our broadband when we check your number.
    Found a cheaper deal?
    If you do find a cheaper price for standalone broadband just give us a call on 0800 073 1120 (quote ref: T6A9PB) and we'll match it. You need to be able to show our sales team where you found the cheaper price and it must be available publicly
     

    Not really applicable to an exiting customer. Besides, I was under the impression we'd removed the price promise as part of yesterday morning's roll-out?
    Quote from: podman
    I Currently have the Pro addition on my account and have chosen to go to Unlimited on my next billing date. Will the Pro disappear from my account at the start of my next billing month or do I need to kill the Pro part by raising a ticket

    Not sure on this one. I suspect it gets removed. Check here after the account change and remove it if necessary.  
    Quote from: podman
    Also is there still an FTTC install reduction for current customers is the £50 a flat fee for everyone how has moved to the new packages. Does the old £25 current customer FTTC install charge still apply to those who have do not move?

    FTTC install is free if you take (or already have) our phone service, £25 if you don't and £50 quid if you don't and you're not already a customer.
    Quote from: riley
    When trying to 'upgrade' through the online page it says we have to pay a £25 activation / engineer visit fee. What's with this?

    As advised, it's a bug (ref: 73780). You won't be charged for it.
    Quote from: Hairy
    Got to love the "0KB allowance"!!  Cheesy

    As Chris says, problem raised for that (ref: 73862). I've suggested changing the '0KB' to '8' or alternatively mimicking what we do with the older iteration of Unlimited that we sold a few years ago (attached).
    Edit: That's suppose to be the infinity symbol rather than an '8', doesn't look like the forum wants to render it properly though.

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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    Quote from: chartford
    Quote from: jelv

    With Unlimited none of the traffic queues get slowed down except in times of exceptional high load. The circumstances under which the Pro add-on would be beneficial are about as rare as hens teeth.

    Thanks Jelv.  So in fact keeping Pro Add-on for Fibre Unlimited wouldn't help for Spotify, Netflix  or P2P etc. anyway?  These things always confuse me.

    No it wouldn't, in fact I suspect it could be detrimental. If you had one of those running a heavy download and were trying to also do something that should be gold (for example streaming) the download could affect the streaming as they will be on the same priority. Without the add-on the streaming will definitely take priority.
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    You could always just leave out "of your 0KB allowance".
    In most software I've used "0" is the usual selection of unlimited.
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    I am currently using Value if I move to the new  ‘Unlimited’ contracted for 1 year.  Can you please confirm that I will keep my:
    Web space
    Faz2mail facility
    Static IP.
    And that there is no activation or cancellation charges.
    Thanks
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    Quote from: fxbronte
    I am currently using Value if I move to the new  ‘Unlimited’ contracted for 1 year.  Can you please confirm that I will keep my:
    Quote from: fxbronte
    Web space
    - http://community.plus.net/unlimited-faq/#13
    Quote from: fxbronte
    Faz2mail facility
    - http://community.plus.net/unlimited-faq/#13
    Quote from: fxbronte
    Static IP.
    - http://community.plus.net/unlimited-faq/#14
    Quote from: fxbronte
    And that there is no activation or cancellation charges.
    - If you're moving ADSL > ADSL (not upgrading to Fibre) there is no charge. There are still cancellation charges if you cancel your account though.
    Thanks
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    I'm confused  Huh
    On value at the moment with a speed quoted of 18.5Mb down ( actually get about 14Mb ). If I upgrade to Unlimited my estimated speed is 7.5Mb down.  Why the difference?
    HairyMcbiker
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    Re: Unlimited/Essentials product launch December 2012

    It's been mentioned before they seem to be quoting adsl speeds not adsl2 ones.
    Just ignore it your speed will not change.