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Full Fibre digital voice

MisterW
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Re: Full Fibre digital voice

I plan to go onto the PlusNet 145Mb FTTP and want to use Digital Voice with it but understand Plusnet do not offer this service. I understand from posts on here that BT will only do Digital Voice on BT Broadband? I also do not intend to use a PN router, I always use Draytek Vigors. Unfortunately the router I have at the moment only does ADSL and FTTC, so I will have to upgrade to a G.Fast one.

@Hrossey only just noticed your post. Not sure why you think you need a G.Fast router ? In principle for FTTP all you need is a router with an ethernet WAN port. What model is your Draytek ? having used Drayteks in the past I'd be pretty sure its got a WAN port

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Nodigitalvoice
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Re: Full Fibre digital voice

Thanks for your info, nowhere have seen it in the articles I have read, and other info on the changeover seems to indicate all users will lose their landlines on change-over dates and be swapped whether they want it or not, so far in spring this year for this area..

So both systems will be running together till 2025 but no purchase of the old system?

This should be made much clearer, still cannot see why Plus Net will not offer digital voice. even small SP's are offering it

 

 

bmc
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Re: Full Fibre digital voice

@Nodigitalvoice 

It is BT customers who are being moved onto Digital Voice by area. Other ISP's will have their own plans.

 

The BT Group has clearly decided that PN will be the basic (low cost) brand of the group offering Internet only. For voice you need to transfer free of charge to BT (if PN customer) or change ISP's.

 

There are many VOIP providers offering a service. A&A seem to offer good deals and have good FAQ's on the subject.

https://www.aa.net.uk/voice-and-mobile/voip-information/

 

Brian

 

 

MisterW
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Re: Full Fibre digital voice

Thanks for your info, nowhere have seen it in the articles I have read, and other info on the changeover seems to indicate all users will lose their landlines on change-over dates and be swapped whether they want it or not, so far in spring this year for this area..

@Nodigitalvoice as @bmc  says the problem is that all of the information regarding the changeover to DV schedule actually ONLY applies to BT Retail customers !! Even the press don't seem to have realised that it doesnt apply to ALL ISP's, its not helped that all the articles tend to show an Openreach logo which is misleading . The only thing that applies to all ISP's is the Openreach PSTN switchoff in 2025 (and there's no published schedule for that).

What IS currently happening is that Openreach will not accept new orders for a landline from any ISP (its called WLR Stop sell) as of Sept 2023. So anyone changing ISP's or changing products will lose the phone line. Recontracting with an existing ISP on the same product does not involve Openreach, therefore retaining a phone line doing that is still possible.

So one could assume that Openreach are thinking that by implementing the stop sell now, the number of phone lines in use will gradually decline leaving a much smaller problem discontinuing in 2025!

still cannot see why Plus Net will not offer digital voice. even small SP's are offering it

If youre thinking the likes of Zen and A & A, they already had a voip(digital voice) system in place. In fact I've used A & A for voip for nearly 5 years now!.  So they already had the infrastructure and support in place, all they have done is package up the voip service with a broadband product and call it Digital voice!. In fact 5 years ago I was going to use Zen at the time but their sales/support had much less knowledge of their voip product than A & A did of theirs.

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Penny
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Re: Full Fibre digital voice


@MisterW wrote:

What IS currently happening is that Openreach will not accept new orders for a landline from any ISP (its called WLR Stop sell) as of Sept 2023. So anyone changing ISP's or products will lose the phone line. Recontracting with an existing ISP on the same product does not involve Openreach, therefore retaining a phone line doing that is still possible.

 

Thank you for the clarity on how landlines can be retained - for now at least - much appreciated.

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