Renewing contract and maybe moving home phone to fibre...

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...that's GW3 Vee Vee C - some of these fonts make it look like GW3WC...

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@PNnewbie wrote:

...  Next project will be moving my mobile calls from Vodaphone payg – one of the cheapest I’ve found is Asda at £4 a month for unlimited calls and texts but no data, I don’t need data really - or at least very little.  Some more Googling I think!

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@PNnewbie 

I've recently gone for this 1pMobile plan offering unlimited UK calls and texts plus 500 MB of data per month for £48 per year, so trumping the £4 per month Asda offer by including some data.  1pMobile uses the EE network.

https://www.1pmobile.com/1year-calls-texts-500MB-SIM

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RobPN - thanks for the information.

Lots of these companies I suspect are small and with no advertising their overheads are minimal, hence their pricing.  As you say they use EE and that's a problem for me - very poor coverage here - weak signal outside and obviously 'very' marginal indoors.  Asda use Vodaphone which is end stopping here.

As an aside I notice lots of the companies that offer good deals use EE - maybe EE offers better rates for third parties?  I seem to remember Plusnet used EE for their mobile service but when I checked the Plussnet offering was a pruned down version of the service offered directly by EE. 

The cheapest  I've come across is 'Spusu' - £2.90 a month which includes 1GB data - but again with EE...   When I checked this afternoon there's no mention of that package now so its presumably been discontinued.  Pity as apparently their CS was good but again their offering was a pruned down EE.

I'm afraid as the missus says - you get what you pay for..  Thanks agn. Rob.

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@PNnewbie  have a look at the MSE site https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/cheap-mobile-finder/sim-only/

You can select which Networks/MVNOs you wish to look at

I switched to Lebara, which uses the Vodafone network, about a year ago on the £4.90/m (£1.90 for the 1st 5m!) deal which gives 5Gb data. Includes wifi calling,5g and VoLTE.

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@PNnewbie wrote:

RobPN - thanks for the information.

... As you say they use EE and that's a problem for me - very poor coverage here - weak signal outside and obviously 'very' marginal indoors.

I'm afraid as the missus says - you get what you pay for..  Thanks agn. Rob.

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@PNnewbie 

If your phones support WiFi calling that would solve your poor indoor reception problem at home.  Just like Lebara mentioned by MisterW in his post above, 1pMobile support 5G, WiFi calling and VoLTE.

Good luck in your quest.

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I suspect that when someone says "Internet phone", they are probably meaning an old USB handset plugged into a PC, using Skype. The audio on Skype historically was bad (they would have been using old, low-bandwidth codecs, as people's broadband bandwidth was low), and the "echo cancellation" leaves a lot to be desired.

Modern VOIP uses some good quality codecs, and is intrinsically a 4-wire system, so you shouldn't get echoes.

(If you use a mobile, then you may have noticed in the last year or two that many calls are REALLY crystal clear: when both handsets support it, then they use HQ voice. This works because the call no longer goes over a 2G bandwidth-restricted system, but is being sent over the 4G as ... VOIP!)

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@RobPN  I know this is an old post now, but I was hoping your experience with freevoipdeal might help me.

I have set up a FVD account which works as expected with their mobile app; With credit in the account I can make free calls etc.

I wanted to set it up on my Linksys SP3102 ATA, but can not make it work. The ATA  works fine  with another VOIP provider, so I'm pretty sure it's not an ATA or router problem.

I would appreciate any thoughts you may have.

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@dejjones 

Apart from apps, I've only ever used VoIP (SIP) with Gigaset IP (VoIP) DECT devices and DrayTek VoIP routers, never any other devices, so I can't help much with filling in the details required for your ATA.

Presumably you've referred to the FreeVoipDeal settings page at  https://www.freevoipdeal.com/sip ?

IME, one thing that might be relevant is that unlike, e.g. Sipgate or A&A, only one device can register at a time, so unless you've disabled their app so that it isn't registering whilst you're trying to register your ATA, the two will 'fight' for the connection, with registration alternating between them.

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@RobPN 

Thanks for the reply.

I hadn't considered your suggestion; but I've now tried registering after uninstalling the app with the same result, failing to register.

FVD customer services say they have no advice for specific devices, and just refer me to their general instruction page for sip.

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@dejjones post screenshots of your spa3102 configuration and we may be able to advise.

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@MisterW 

@RobPN 

Below is what I believe to be the relevant config. details.

Under Proxy and Registration I only fill the "Proxy" field

Under Subscriber Information I fill the Display Name,Password,Auth ID and User ID fields

If I fill those 5 fields with the similar details for my other VOIP account it registers OK.

But it will not register with the details shown below for FVD.

Hope this is enough detail.

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@dejjones 

Well from that screenshot your device looks to be more complicated comprehensive regarding settings than devices I've used.

Something I noticed but don't know if it's relevant, you've got the option 'Use Outbound Proxy' set to 'Yes', but OP field is blank.

Have you set a number you 'own' as CLI on the FVD settings page?  This might sound counter intuitive (but it was something I learned many years ago from someone on the DrayTek forum who discovered it), if you have, try putting that number (including area code and no spaces) into the User ID field instead of dej44jones, alternatively you might try toggling the 'Use Auth ID' setting to 'No'.

PS - Might be irrelevant, but try leaving 'Display Name' blank, I just checked my Gigaset N300 and mines blank.  I don't have access to my DrayTek ATM to check, but I'm pretty sure it's blank on there too.

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Something I noticed but don't know if it's relevant, you've got the option 'Use Outbound Proxy' set to 'Yes', but OP field is blank.

@RobPN That would be my thought.

@dejjones Set 'use outbound proxy' to no. I'd also set 'use ob proxy in dialog' to no and probably 'make call without reg' also to no

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Looking at https://www.callcentric.com/support/device/linksys/spa3102, I see that they have the "outbound proxy" configured too.  You might want to check the other settings too.

https://www.inphonex.com/support/linksys-spa3102-voiptopstn-configuration.php also has info that might help.

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Looking at https://www.callcentric.com/support/device/linksys/spa3102, I see that they have the "outbound proxy" configured too.  You might want to check the other settings too.

@paul_blitz that may well be the case for callcentric. Whether an outbound proxy should be configured depends on whether the supplier provides an outbound proxy server. It would appear that freevoipdeal dont provide one.