Renewing BB and Home phone
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09-01-2024 2:55 PM
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* will I be sent a new router when I renew and can my existing home phone be plugged into this router to work when the VOIP changeover happens
* Will I have to buy a new phone ,I'm concerned as i don't need the extra expense.
All this will help me make my decision to stay with PN as it will be easier for me in the end
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09-01-2024 3:17 PM
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but need reassurance about the changeover to VOIP phone
What changeover to voip ? BT retail are changing people to voip but Plusnet have no plans to do so, in fact they have no plans for voip at all.
At the moment you have two options, can recontract on your existing product which includes a landline, or you can change to a Fibre without phone contract and get voip through a separate provider if you still require a landline phone number
Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.
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09-01-2024 3:21 PM
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Re: Renewing BB and Home phone
09-01-2024 3:26 PM
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My mother-in-law is with PN and contract ending 8/Feb. She is in her eighties and does not have or want a mobile. The lack of a 'landline phone' option is terrifying for her, and I'll need to get a single supplier to resolve this switchover.
Is it possible to port her current LL number out, without loss of service?
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09-01-2024 3:32 PM
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PN do not offer a VOIP service and are unlikely to do so in the future.
While you can renew your contract with a phone service this is likely the last time you'll be able to do so.
If you leave PN you lose any add ons - eg e-mail.
Have a look at the FAQ's on A&A to read up on VOIP (and check out their prices). It is potentially cheaper to go internet only with PN and VOIP from another provider.
https://www.aa.net.uk/voice-and-mobile/voip-information/
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09-01-2024 3:35 PM
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Thanks, it means managing two providers, but I'll have a look.
How do I port her number out for VOIP, and keep he BB connection alive, even with PN?
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09-01-2024 3:40 PM
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@susanm wrote:
* will I be sent a new router when I renew and can my existing home phone be plugged into this router to work when the VOIP changeover happens
* Will I have to buy a new phone ,I'm concerned as i don't need the extra expense.
If you choose to move your landline number to a third party VoIP provider (such as A&A ), then you can keep your existing phone handset, but you would need a "VoIP ATA adaptor" costing £45 to £95, to convert your handset, to be able to plug into an ethernet socket on whatever broadband router you have.
As you mentioned "extra expense", when you are looking at other providers, make sure you carefully check what your typical monthly calls are likely to cost. Beware that many "digital voice" alternatives are charged at similar rates to existing out of bundle analogue phone calls, whereas "VoIP" calls are typically MUCH cheaper and you have a better choice of phones etc
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09-01-2024 3:52 PM
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Is it possible to port her current LL number out, without loss of service?
No, porting out the current number will cease the broadband and landline.
How do I port her number out for VOIP, and keep he BB connection alive, even with PN?
You change to a Fibre (or Full fibre if available) , which ceases the landline and changes to broadband only, you then have 30 days to port the number to a voip provider.
My mother-in-law is with PN and contract ending 8/Feb. She is in her eighties and does not have or want a mobile. The lack of a 'landline phone' option is terrifying for her, and I'll need to get a single supplier to resolve this switchover.
Being brutally honest, in that situation I'd suggest moving to BT who will provide digital voice. It will cost more , but they will provide all the equipment and handle the transfer. If you call PN customer options , they can arrange the transfer (although they will need to speak with m-i-l to confirm). Bear in mind that digital voice/voip will not work in a power cut situation so a charged mobile is still a very good idea.
Superusers are not staff, but they do have a direct line of communication into the business in order to raise issues, concerns and feedback from the community.
Re: Renewing BB and Home phone
09-01-2024 3:58 PM
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If you go to a provider who offers both there should be little or no downtime on the phone. I'm afraid their would be if you chose PN for internet and port the number to a VOIP provider.
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09-01-2024 10:29 PM
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I was quoted a contract price including home phone for 18 months .
So if this is the case was the staff member giving me wrong information. ?
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09-01-2024 10:48 PM
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@susanm Don't believe a word of it, Plusnet are not providing a digital phone service.😫
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09-01-2024 11:01 PM
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Being brutally honest, in that situation I'd suggest moving to BT who will provide digital voice. It will cost more , but they will provide all the equipment and handle the transfer. If you call PN customer options , they can arrange the transfer (although they will need to speak with m-i-l to confirm). Bear in mind that digital voice/voip will not work in a power cut situation so a charged mobile is still a very good idea.
A 'PAYG' tellingbone call package with SOGEA from BT is (I think) a quid more expensive than Pnet ?
An all-inclusive call package with BT will definitely be more expensive (about a tenner a month more?).
(Similar technical sort of stuff happening in my life, but very different personal circumstances).
The BT-supplied h/w appears to be geared at the 'plug-and-play' level (although I've yet to have real-world experience of how it performs).
Another option could possibly include investigation as to whether there's a LLU player (which means Talk-Talk or Sky) at the local level.
09-01-2024 11:36 PM
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@susanm wrote:
So if this is the case was the staff member giving me wrong information. ?
I think all of the answers could be interpreted as true depending on what the staff member was talking about.
@susanm wrote:
... asked ... would there be any problems when home phone went digital . The staff member told me there would be no problem whatsoever and I wouldn't notice any difference .
It is true to say that once your phone handset is converted to VoIP, that it works as it has always done, and in some ways better, so in daily use you wouldn't notice a difference.
However you would still have the hassle of porting your existing number to a third party supplier or changing ISP, then either buying a new VoIP phone or sourcing an adaptor to convert your current handset, and there should have been mention that digital/VoIP phones don't work during a power cut (unlike the existing telephone which do).
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The change would be from copper to digital causing no issue to me .
Upgrading your broadband from FTTC to SoGEA won't cause any issues to your broadband service and email etc.
You would carry on using your existing router, and cables, as they are now with no changes other than unplugging the disabled phone from the wall socket.
@susanm wrote:
I was quoted a contract price including home phone for 18 months .
That must be a renewal quote for the continuation your existing setup (i.e. broadband and PSTN phone service) for another 18 months. Note that the UK phone system switch off is at the end of 2025 so an 18 month extension from now is about as long as they can offer you.
HOWEVER, as others have said, Plusnet DO NOT provide VoIP or "digital voice" alternatives for customers with existing traditional analogue telephone service.
If you came away from the conversation thinking that Plusnet were offering you a digital/VoIP phone service, then the staff member was either at cross purposes, or gave you the wrong information.
Re: Renewing BB and Home phone
10-01-2024 9:33 AM
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So , as PN have offered me an 18 month BB and home package phone ( anytime / unlimited )from 31st March can I assume I will be OK for the next 18 months and then after 18 months and prior to contract ending find myself another provider .? This would be easier for me and give me another 18months to understand these changes .
I find all this confusing and don't have family support so I do appreciate your help .
Re: Renewing BB and Home phone
10-01-2024 10:54 AM
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@aks100 wrote:
My mother-in-law is with PN and contract ending 8/Feb. She is in her eighties and does not have or want a mobile. The lack of a 'landline phone' option is terrifying for her, and I'll need to get a single supplier to resolve this switchover.
Is it possible to port her current LL number out, without loss of service?
Is your MiL in receipt of any means tested benefits such as Pension Credit (Guarantee Credit)?
If so, she could move to BTs 'Home Essentials' scheme which covers Internet and Digital Voice at a very low cost.
see https://www.bt.com/content/dam/bt/help/home-essentials/102076_Home_Essentials_Online.pdf
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