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Legacy services retirement roadmap

Protech
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Legacy services retirement roadmap


I would like to suggest that it would be helpful to everyone , customers , support staff , and forum support volunteers if Plusnet could publish its timescales for the sunsetting of its remaining legacy services .

Primarily Email and WebHosting.

There seems to be ongoing conflicting views from Plusnet support staff and some Superusers on this forum as to  when and indeed if this is happening for existing customers - this sows seeds of confusion with customers and impacts their planning to migrate to alternative services.


Whilst I understand that E-mail , in particular , is a pro-bono service provided by Plusnet and therefore no has contractual obligations attached - this is the one remaining legacy service that can require significant migration effort on behalf of its users

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@Protech wrote:


... it would be helpful to everyone... if Plusnet could publish its timescales for the sunsetting of its remaining legacy services .

 

Yes that would be helpful, but unlikely that they'd do it, when so far Plusnet apparently haven't made any effort to inform customers of services ending when the product end of life timescales ARE ALREADY widely known !

 

As most here know, the analogue PSTN landline phone service will be withdrawn at the end of 2025,  yet Plusnet landline phone customers can still call support and renew "as is" their broadband with phone contracts for another 18 months, possibly with the customer being unaware that the contract can't be honoured beyond 2025, and being left with the impression that there's nothing that needs doing to keep their landline phone number working from 2026 !.

 

Wouldn't it be better to inform customers who's phone contracts are ending, the options of -

  • Consider giving up their landline number, and save money by 'upgrading' FTTC to SoGEA or FTTP.
  • Moving without penalty to BT/EE to continue landline number via "Digital Voice"
  • 'upgrading' FTTC to SoGEA or FTTP, and migrating landline number to a VoIP supplier.
  • Do nothing, but stay "out of contract" until forced to do one of the above options.

Allowing customers to renew 'as is' is just delaying the inevitable, and compressing the window for action to the weeks leading up until Christmas - when ISPs and VoIP suppliers often have reduced staff coverage or extended holiday periods.

 

The above is even worse for customers who can currently ONLY get ADSL, because whether they have a landline phone or not, when the voice component is removed from the ADSL by the end of 2025, the line becomes SoADSL,  which Plusnet apparently have no plans to supply,  so the customer will lose their Plusnet broadband, and will have to find one of the very few and typically expensive ISPs who offer SoADSL, and lose their Plusnet email, referrals, webspace, etc, in the process.

Currently Plusnet support are telling ADSL with landline phone customers (who ask) to move to BT/EE for "Digital Voice", but when followed up it appears that neither BT or EE support "Digital Voice" over ADSL (and even if they did, "Digital Voice" isn't likely to work particularly well due to the very low upload bandwidth of SoADSL, and the BT/EE routers not supporting bandwidth QoS or VoIP traffic prioritisation).

Plusnet should be providing additional guidance for any customers on ADSL only lines, as they will lose everything this year !

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Blame BT - after all, PN is now only a brand of the BT Consumer Division, who dictate what PN can, or can't do.

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@outcast wrote:

 

Currently Plusnet support are telling ADSL with landline phone customers (who ask) to move to BT/EE for "Digital Voice", but when followed up it appears that neither BT or EE support "Digital Voice" over ADSL (and even if they did, "Digital Voice" isn't likely to work particularly well due to the very low upload bandwidth of SoADSL,

I'm in an area with only ADSL available, but the BT website does offer me 5-7Mbps broadband for "only" £29.99pm with an option for PAYG phone for an extra £5pm or inclusive calls for £18pm - so it does appear BT can/will offer DigitalVoice over SoADSL (I haven't phoned them to check, and have no plans to do so). I should add that EE can't offer any fixed broadband - just 4G.

From working for a major telecoms manufacturer in the 80s-90s, voice should work fine with limited bandwidth given appropriate equipment - 0.5Mbps used to considered enough to run all the phones in an office (ISDN2 as I had at home was under 200kbps in total and provided 10 lines). Allowing for different codecs and standards in use today, it still should be possible. 


 

Protech
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@jab1 wrote:

Blame BT - after all, PN is now only a brand of the BT Consumer Division, who dictate what PN can, or can't do.


Well BT will know the plans for its Plusnet brand to close it's legacy services in order to become a wires only broadband "no frills" supplier.

It just seems to be a very unprofessional way for any business to communicate to its customer base.

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It is the GPO Telephones' sorry, BT way.

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