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Plusnaet Failure
01-08-2014 11:25 PM
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01-08-2014 11:48 PM
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
02-08-2014 12:42 AM
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"In The Beginning Was The Word, And The Word Was Aardvark."
Re: Plusnaet Failure
02-08-2014 10:08 AM
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A rant like this is also unlikely to garner support from the community. If the OP wants help from the community, please take a look at the speed and connection threads at the top of the broadband forum and post the results back here or raise an on line fault report here - http://faults.plus.net - PlusNET support staff will not be on these forums during the weekend.
Repeated disconnections can be caused by...
A faulty filter - these can just degrade to the point where they fail to do their job - has a replacement been tried?
A flaky router - ditto - ditto?
Internal extension wiring - ditto - has the router been connected to the test socket (if there is one) for a good period of time?
Electrical interference from within and without the home - has any new equipment / appliance been acquired recently?
Noisy phone line - has a 17070 option 2 quiet line test been performed using a corded phone plugged into the test socket? If there is noise on the line then that needs to be addressed by the phone service provider (which might not be PlusNET) before proceeding further with a broadband fault investigation.
Until all of the above have been assessed, unless one is prepared to face / accept a marked risk of getting a £60+ bill from BTOR then proceeding to an engineer visit is foolish.
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
03-08-2014 9:17 AM
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Townman has mentioned plenty of factors that could easily be the cause of such a fault, and these have to be checked out, a lot of them by the user.
But what should be made clear is that even if the responsibility turns out to be Plusnet's to get fixed whatever the fault is, it will not have been caused by Plusnet who have no control over the cable to the exchange, the users equipment, electrical interference etc. etc.
Re: Plusnaet Failure
04-08-2014 12:35 PM
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Sorry to hear that you've had a fault with the service as well as concern surrounding the agent you spoke with about this.
I have since reviewed your account and can see that you had this matter raised with a manager who both the fault raised/engineer booked for you as well as investigating the problem call to be listened to.
If there is anything more we can help you with then just drop us a reply here and again we're sorry for any inconvenience you may have seen.
Re: Plusnaet Failure
05-08-2014 1:29 PM
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
06-08-2014 12:41 PM
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Your issue is being dealt with elsewhere - see http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,130156.msg1133436.html#msg1133436 - where you have been advised that BTOR (PN's suppliers) have forecast a fix for 6th Aug.
Quote from: Criticmonkey Agreed. The fault lies with the people you are giving your money to. Plusnet are failing me too.
Comments such as this in other people's threads are not helpful and in this cause not accurate. The fault in your case lay with BTOR, accountability for resolving the issue does indeed lay with the people one pays the bill to, but not the fault.
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
06-08-2014 1:26 PM
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I can confirm that I have chased Openreach for you this afternoon, who have advised me that they believe that they have resolved the ingoing fault on the line.
I have reviewed the connection and this appears stable, however if you find that a fault is still apparent, please don't hesitate to respond to the fault ticket so that we can further investigate.
Re: Plusnaet Failure
06-08-2014 9:56 PM
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06-08-2014 9:57 PM
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
07-08-2014 12:05 PM
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Thank you for your kind words - come out of retirement and work for PlusNET - an interesting idea!
Not having a modern nte5 with a test socket could indeed be a factor in your issue. The need to "reset at the exchange" again is very indicative of a line / connection / equipment fault. It suggests that the error rate on your line is driving the exchange management systems in the "wrong" direction. The standard stats requested should indicate this if we could see them.
The process is a bit of a pain, but it is there to significantly eliminate the risk of ineffective use of BTOR resources with the consequence of costs to the end user (you), costs to the ISP (billing and payment processing) and BTOR not being available to service someone else's fault which they need to fix - which could have been yours - resulting in a no show appointment. One way or another these checks do everyone a favour!
I've been through all the stages of this over the years: "It worked yesterday, nothing has changed here so the fault must be somewhere else" only to eventually find that changing the router, filter or moving to the master socket has eliminated the "external" issue. Electronics deteriorate over time, especially capacitors. Their decay can be slow or sudden, but having crossed their operational margin they no longer do their job properly, which is not the same as not working at all. Marginal operation is a major issue in any high speed system, be that telecommunications or computers.
A very significant number of speed and connectivity problems are down to those issues which users are asked to check out. After that the router stats and other data (if you know how to interpret them) can tell you a great deal about the likely cause of a problem, which is why they are asked for. Some issues can be resolved by correcting line settings, others will require an engineer visit.
However an ever increasing number of Internet issues are caused by the many electrical gadgets we use in our homes: anything having a switched mode power supply (those little black boxes powering laptops etc); baby monitors; DECT phones; plasma TVs; Freeview boxes; CCTV systems; central heating; fridge / freezers; in fact nearly anything which switches on / off or for some reason uses a variable amount of power (switch to / from standby) can cause a phenomena called REIN. This is really bad news as it is difficult to locate and (especially if external to your home) be difficult to eliminate. BTOR have no regulatory power to cause the "owner" of the cause of REIN to rectify matters. At the business premises I recently occupied, West coast mainline trains passing nearby generated a -4+dB noise spike - given that my normal noise margins was around 6dB on some occasions that spike was enough to drop my connection - nothing anyone could (or would) do about that.
I hope your engineer visit finds a fault which can be fixed. Hopefully he will fit a modem nte5 socket - if he does not suggest it, ask him if he thinks it will be beneficial. Be warned there might be other faults which they don't pursue - there is a tendency to assume that the fault found which when fixed and delivers some improvement is all that's wrong with a line. You might find it useful to get the router stats before they attend to compare them to after they leave. This will give you a comparison of the achieved improvement. Further, sight of your current stars will allow an estimation to be made of what your line should do, so that when talking to the engineer you will know how close to ideal their fix is before they leave.
HTH.
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Re: Plusnaet Failure
07-08-2014 11:32 PM
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@ Townman thanks again Bt engineer confirms connection from house to modem good and was very pleased to see connection from modem to PC is via ethernet 🙂
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08-08-2014 12:57 AM
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08-08-2014 2:09 AM
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