Plusnet - New Network

[#1]

Quote from: spoon

If it's to force TR069 to reset the username/password...

No idea why a factory reset was required, but that's ^ definitely not the reason.

[#2]

Have started this separately to stop confusion.
With all this talk about the new network & associated issues (dedicated ip's/lottery website etc.), I have found this on the Kitz forum.
I presume this is what's it's all about?
http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,16711.0.html

[#3]

yes it is and first discussed here http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,147447.0.html

[#4]

Moderator Note
Topics merged.

[#5]

Is the new network for 20CN or just 21CN/FTTC connections?
I'm on a Market A exchange that only has ADSL Max and I pay extra for the ADSLMax Premium which is supposed to prioritise my traffic. Latency and congestion has been getting progressively worse, so I'd like to know whether the new network may help at all?

[#6]

Have I been moved to the new network - nothing in closed tickets but there was a drop in PPP last night

Tracing route to bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.22]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  home.gateway.home.gateway [192.168.1.254]
  2    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  lo0.14.central14.ptw-bng01.plus.net [195.166.128.174]
  3    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  irb.14.ptw-cr02.plus.net [84.93.249.66]
  4    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  ae2.ptw-cr01.plus.net [195.166.129.4]
  5    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  kingston-gw.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.6]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8    17 ms    35 ms    15 ms  ae0.er01.telhc.bbc.co.uk [132.185.254.109]
  9    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  132.185.255.148
 10    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  bbc.co.uk [212.58.244.22]

and my ping increased significantly

[#7]

Doesn't look like it - I'd expect to see extra hops between you and the gateway.

[#8]

I was going to ask if I've been moved, seeing my SNR has dramatically lowered by 9db, but my route is practically the same

Quote

1    <1 ms    1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.1.254   2    26 ms    24 ms    25 ms  lo0.10.Central10.ptn-bng02.plus.net [195.166.130.190]   3    26 ms    24 ms    25 ms  irb.10.PTW-CR01.plus.net [84.93.249.1]   4    25 ms    25 ms    27 ms  kingston-gw.thdo.bbc.co.uk [212.58.239.6]

[#9]

@OJ & XenoGuy - You're both still on the 'old' network

[#10]

Oldjim more likely BT work in the last few days, I had that 2am drop on the 20th and again same as you no closed tickets in the last 2 weeks

[#11]

How do we tell if / when  we are on the new network ?
Or do we  have to reset router - mind lasts for days and days - weeks even andno resets

[#12]

Quote from: HarryB

@OJ & XenoGuy - You're both still on the 'old' network

Will we get notice ahead of time, or is it wait-and-see-when-your-router-can't-connect scenario?

[#13]

Quote from: Gus

Oldjim more likely BT work in the last few days, I had that 2am drop on the 20th and again same as you no closed tickets in the last 2 weeks

in my case doubtful as the line didn't lose sync

[#14]

As always Kitz has the answer:
[quote=http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,16711.msg309136.html#msg309136]

Quote from: ktz392837

Is there an easy way of finding out if you are on the new network and which wbmc node you are on?  Thanks

atm by doing a tracert.
If you are on dedicated then you will see a hop with a private IP eg 172.17.xx
From the tracerts Ive seen, the interconnect routers arent configured to respond to ICMP ping so it doesnt give anything away about location.
The private IPs indicate Plusnets network, whether or not in time they allocate public IPs which could make the locations more visible (as BTretail/consumer do) I dont know. 😕

Example:

Quote from: AndyH

Here are my traceroutes (same issue NL site doesn't load/connect at all on the new network). Via the new network: Quote Tracing route to www.lb.national-lottery.co.uk [194.246.78.103] over a maximum of 30 hops:   1    1 ms    1 ms    1 ms  dsldevice.lan [192.168.1.254]   2    *        *        *    Request timed out.   3    *        *        *    Request timed out.   4    3 ms    3 ms    5 ms  172.17.3.205   5    5 ms    4 ms    4 ms  172.17.10.130   6    7 ms    4 ms    5 ms  be2.pcn-ir01.plus.net [195.166.129.164]   7    5 ms    5 ms    4 ms  core1-BE1.colindale.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.125.132]   8    5 ms    7 ms    7 ms  peer1-et-1-3-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [195.99.127.19]   9    *        *        *    Request timed out. 10    *        *        *    Request timed out. 11    *        *        *    Request timed out.

Also it looks like the gateway checker may have been enhanced:

Quote from: buseng12

Slight more info, this is my gateway. You are currently connected to gateway pcn-ar01. This is located in Colindale Point of Presence

[#15]

Quote from: Bob

...but bear in mind it won't be obvious to everybody when they've been moved i.e. you won't all see traceroutes like that ^

Quote from: Bob

Quote from: jafreer Bob - is there a way to tell when one is moved onto the new network? It will be fairly simple for some to tell because they'll see the routing change in outbound traceroutes. Not everybody will though, and for those folk the best clues you're likely to get are from checking the service notices/tickets on your account. (I /think/ that's still possible to do?). Other option is to ask a member of staff, but I strongly advise against that as it will detract from more important issues that need attending to - especially when our support folk are so busy.