Plusnet will give your personal details to ACS Law with not informing you!!

[#1]

Seems there is now someone you can complain to regarding the activities of ACS law and macmillan  the legal ombudsman
http://www.slyck.com/story2078_New_Avenue_for_Legal_Complaints_in_the_UK

[#2]

Post with link to Hitler parody removed. This is a serious thread so can any future funnies be posted here http://community.plus.net/forum/index.php/topic,89324.0.html where the video has already been posted several times

[#3]

The Irish have shown the way.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11521949

[#4]

I see that there is a site http://www.acs-law.co.uk/ which is "under construction".
The original site http://www.acs-law.org.uk/ is still down. 

[#5]

I'm somewhat frankly amazed he's still trading, maybe the publicity attracted new clients?
But if I was someone doing work for him (say a web design firm) I'd be asking for payment up front.

[#6]

Quote from: A

I see that there is a site http://www.acs-law.co.uk/ which is "under construction". The original site http://www.acs-law.org.uk/ is still down.

The 'contact' section is up though - send him a message everyone 

[#7]

The site that is under construction go's to http://www.wal-sca.com
[Enit]
Done a look up on: http://www.wal-sca.com
Registrant:
  Domains by Proxy, Inc.
  DomainsByProxy.com
  15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
  Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
  United States
  Domain Name: WAL-SCA.COM
     Created on: 06-Oct-10
     Expires on: 06-Oct-12
     Last Updated on: 06-Oct-10
Domain servers in listed order:
     NS29.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
     NS30.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Now that is interesting.
[Edit]
Domain name:
       acs-law.co.uk
Registrant:
       SOHO Technology Ltd
   Registrant type:
       UK Individual
   Registrant's address:
       20 Hanover Square
       London
       W1S 1JY
       United Kingdom
Relevant dates:
       Registered on: 12-Jan-2006
       Renewal date:  12-Jan-2012
       Last updated:  07-Oct-2010
Name servers:
       ns1.totalnameservers.com
       ns2.totalnameservers.com
[Edit]
And the plot thickens
Domain name:
        acs-law.org.uk
Registrant:
        Terence Tsang
Registrant's address:
        ACS Law Solicitors, 18 Hanover Square
        London
        Greater London
        W1S 1HX
        United Kingdom
Relevant dates:
        Registered on: 09-Apr-2009
        Renewal date:  09-Apr-2011
        Last updated:  08-May-2009
Name servers:
        ns1.dfsv61.com
        ns2.dfsv61.com
Hmmmmmmmmmm

[#8]

Quote from: Midnight

The site that is under construction go's to http://www.wal-sca.com

So is that one.

[#9]

@julesandsand, that is because it is the same site.

[#10]

I just wanted to respond to a couple of questions which have been raised. 
@liam - the date of the court hearing: just to be clear this is not yet set, the earliest date it will be as I understand it is the of 12th January, but it has to be agreed by the court.  I'll ask when we are likely to have confirmation from the court as to the exact date of the hearing and let you know. 
@fourfourdevon - I can confirm we had a few more lawyers in attendance than the 2 you've suggested.  We had a team of 8 present including myself.
Thanks,
Fletch

[#11]

Quote from: Fletch

@fourfourdevon - I can confirm we had a few more lawyers in attendance than the 2 you've suggested.  We had a team of 8 present including myself.

Wow I'm more than impressed.  I think for myself I can say I belive now that BT/Plusnet intend to do this case well.
So an updated attendance for the last hearing is

• At least 1 Galant and May solicitor


• 8 people from BT/Plusnet including Fletch


• BBC reporter


• Open Rights Group


• BPI


• BE ?


• Guardian ?

So thats 12 confirmed of the reported 17, 2 maybe's, 3 unknown, although I think it likely that at least one of those was also with Galant and May.

[#12]

For any that may be confused as to why they are receiving letters claiming they have infringed someones copyright when they have never file shared....
http://www.cpp.co.uk/news/wireless-networks-open-to-attack/
Nearly half of home wi-fi networks can be hacked in less than five seconds, according to a new study

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According to the findings, nearly a quarter of private wireless networks has no password whatsoever attached, making them immediately accessible to criminals. This is despite majority (82 per cent) of Brits mistakenly thinking their network is secure

Exactly..... The public still need educating NOT sending letters of claim with fines of £300 - 700.

[#13]

There are many other reasons why false claims can and are being made as well, the reasons are covered here https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0B-FtXNu_158fOTIxOGMxNzMtNGJmNi00YTcwLWJlMmUtMTJhZDg2NGIwNjlk&hl...

[#14]

A Law firm drops it's pursuit of file sharers and the Digital Economy Act

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the reason it has ditched working on the Digital Economy Act is because it is self defeating - file sharers are downloading content because they like it, he says, so to prosecute a potential investor is like shooting yourself in the foot. A model needs to be thought up whereby file sharers are not targeted aggressively, as with ACS:Law's tactic.

Read more: http://www.techeye.net/business/terence-tsang-figure-behind-acs-law-letters-leaves-cramer-pelmont#ix...

[#15]

Back on line again..
Where can i start, ....
Well i would like to thank Fletch and the other 7 members of BT/Plusnet who attended the hearing at the high court on the 4 oct, I hope that as others have already said that they will concentrate more on the accuracy of the data, and whether the NPO is the right way to go, One suggestion is that if the Law insists on allowing these NPO's then they should limit the amount of unknown items ie IP adresses to be limited to say 10. that way the rights holders can still apply and get an NPO to ask the ISPs for addresses but it will not be as cost effective as they will need to file numerous times (costs will increase) (but if they are protecting artists rights then that shouldnot matter)
Also the software used has been questioned on ACS Laws own emails, but has yet to be independantly tested, I would hope that Bt will test the accuracy and not rely on a "expert Witness" congered up by the law firm.
Remember that this is not about "ooow shot ooow", the damage has been done regarding the leak and BT should now question the entire process not just the data handling. afterall if they dont give the information away in the first place then it cannot get lost or be insecure.
Just my two penneth worth