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Re: What an excellent business plan!!
12-02-2009 8:08 PM
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I am almost sure it is an NTE5 but it is not marked openreach. The face plate comes off the lower section and displays the wires and the master socket where I am now plugged into. Really if the master was downstairs it would be much better to fit a new faceplate and plug into that for ADSL and a separate phone jack.
An idea's what BT may charge for moving it anyone? MalOz comments are good, some of us need laymans help and diagrams.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
12-02-2009 8:12 PM
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Terminology - the whole thing is a "master socket" (one variety of), the socket revealed behind the faceplate is the Test Socket.
Did you ever do a test with your TV amp turned off?
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
12-02-2009 8:13 PM
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The wholesale price for moving a master socket is £25 + vat, however depending on who your supplier is you may have to stump up Time Related Charges (£85 for the callout+first hour, and £55 per hour thereafter).
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
12-02-2009 8:15 PM
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Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 9:30 AM
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Also attached router stats from this morning and last night, You can see here that the router has dropped from 1958 the day before, when I stopped using the computer, until I connected again in the morning. I connected at 0730 but it shows 0809 on the stats.
Also the stats page showing speed and noise etc which started off at 10 this morning and is now showing 9.9 for the last hour.
System msg showing connection reset by peer, again, and the router stats has stopped logging on the telnet page.
I hope this helps. I also confirm the following:
No telephone connected or dect on
Bell wire not connected as far as I can tell
Filter is OK I think
Booster switched off but made no difference, I cannot leave it off because the family has no TV without it.
I need at some stage today to bring down the router from the loft, my wife has no phone and is not amused

This is router log showing it dropping out;
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:00:23 - Initialize LCP.
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:00:23 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:00:27 - CHAP authentication success
Sat, 2000-01-01 00:00:30 - Send out NTP request to 192.5.41.41
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:05:13 - Receive NTP Reply from 192.5.41.41
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:17:22 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:24:59 - Administrator login failed - IP:192.168.0.3
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:25:12 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:04:42 - Router start up
Wed, 2009-02-11 09:04:42 - Router start up
Wed, 2009-02-11 13:03:31 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 09:25:06 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 14:23:54 - Administrator login failed - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 14:24:06 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 15:15:35 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 16:29:34 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 16:30:09 - LCP down.
Thu, 2009-02-12 16:30:12 - Initialize LCP.
Thu, 2009-02-12 16:30:12 - LCP is allowed to come up.
Thu, 2009-02-12 16:30:16 - CHAP authentication success
Thu, 2009-02-12 17:34:27 - Administrator login failed - IP:192.168.0.3
Thu, 2009-02-12 17:34:43 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Fri, 2009-02-13 09:34:54 - Administrator login successful - IP:192.168.0.3
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 9:34 AM
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Quote from: Sunny I have attached here my master socket, cannot see any capacitor,
Don't worry, OldJim posted a picture of an old-style master, yours has all that stuff under the "hump" on the baseplate.

Wiring looks pretty normal for stuff run externally.

I think we'd all like a photo of the inside of that black junction box though, just to be sure.

Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 9:56 AM
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Quote from: HPsauce Don't worry, OldJim posted a picture of an old-style master, yours has all that stuff under the "hump" on the baseplate. ![]()


Now for the good news - your corrected error rate has dropped to a perfectly normal level so it looks as though this has made a difference.
The filter you are using is pasted here http://www.adslnation.com/support/filters.php and you should change it for a better one
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 10:22 AM
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Quote from: Oldjim The filter you are using .... you should change it for a better one
Agreed.
It's fine used as in the photo, i.e. just as an adapter, but with any phone connected it is far from ideal.
Funny thing is that other Excelsus models are fine, I actually use Z-420's at home to recreate the ring signals where I have to.
(My main filter is an ADSLnation faceplate)
If you don't have alternative filters and need to buy them it would probably be better to spend the money on a filtered faceplate.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 10:27 AM
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Quote from: HPsauce I think we'd all like a photo of the inside of that black junction box though, just to be sure.
Attached, looks like done professionally to me. I keep getting this on the R/S any idea why? (att)
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 10:58 AM
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The router must be busy doing something else
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 11:19 AM
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Quote from: Sunny Attached, looks like done professionally to me.
OK, all 4 cores are connected in there which may or may not be a problem; only 2 are connected on the master socket faceplate.

Can you describe how the various cables run and what is connected to what please.
You have a master socket in the loft. I can see it has a black cable - is that the incoming BT line and is it connected to 2 screw terminals on the back side of the master socket baseplate (the bit with the BT&piper logo)?
It appears to have 2 (one above?, one below) brown cables - are those connected (2 each of orange and white) to the removeable faceplate?
Where do they then go?
And where do the 3 brown cables in the junction box go?
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 11:19 AM
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Quote from: HPsauce
Quote from: Oldjim The filter you are using .... you should change it for a better one
Agreed.
That filter is NOT used as a norm, the one I use downstairs is the BT ADSL MF50 I also have one similar to that but it is generic, no name just CE on it. The one plugged in upstairs is a spare. Connections are as follows when normal:
Filter ADSL Modem + Phone/Fax. Nothing else is plugged into any other sockets. As i said before I bought the filtered faceplate but because of the location of the master box I did not think it would be suitable.
Re charges for moving master, BT is my supplier, are those BT charges? If so I would get the master moved to the study then use the ext cable back up to the loft for any other ext's, then I could use a filtered faceplate I think. Any suggestions.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 11:21 AM
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If not is it possible to do so and see if there are any effects
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 11:24 AM
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Quote from: Sunny Filter ADSL Modem + Phone/Fax.
Faxes can be problematic; I'd double-filter it with known good branded filters.
The branched unfiltered wiring (awaiting details requested above) WILL affect the broadband signal quality.
Re: What an excellent business plan!!
13-02-2009 11:26 AM
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As I was concerned about the reported attenuation I asked James to run a woosh test and it has given exactly the same results as the router.
Thanks to James for a very speedy response

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